Keep in mind that up to April 1940, 1 1/4 ounce loads were allowed in trap shooting. The 3 1/8 dram equiv. pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot was quite a popular load.

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Dave, when you find a box of those Lubaloy trap loads in the 3" case, we'll talk. Drew, were there also ten gauge 3 1/2" available? Of course we lament the fact that the customer could have had a #4 Super Ten for $50.00 but turned it down.

Dave is of course correct.

Field & Stream, 1912, “The Trap Gun and Some Loads” by E.C. Crossman
September, Part 1
https://books.google.com/books?id=OH...J&pg=PA537&lpg
October, Part 2 “Patterns and Loads”
https://books.google.com/books?id=dH...J&pg=PA628&lpg
Crossman listed the standard Trap load as 1 1/4 oz. 3 1/8 Dr. Eq.

In 1913 the Interstate Association submitted a poll to trapshooters:
Are you in favor of restricting loads for target shooting to 3 Drams Bulk, or the equivalent in Dense powder, and 1 1/8 oz. of shot?
Frank Butler – “Let me say that the shooter can break targets with a three dram one and one-eighth load if he holds right. Harold Money, who traveled as a professional for years, always used three Drams “Schultze” Powder and one and one-eighth shot.”

DuPont began an advertising campaign promoting 3 Dram loads in 1914
Forest & Stream
https://books.google.com/books?id=kB4cAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA835
https://books.google.com/books?id=kB4cAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA867

In 1919 the Executive Committee of the American Trapshooting Association voted on whether to establish the standard load a 1 1/8 oz. 3 Dr. Eq. The proposal failed.
Arms and The Man, August 2, 1919
https://books.google.com/books?id=TB...C&pg=PA377&lpg


Bill: The Western Super-X Super-Ten shell with 1 5/8 ounces of shot with 4 3/4 Dr. Eq. of Progressive Burning Smokeless Powder in a 2 7/8" case was introduced about 1926. The Western Super-X Magnum-Ten with 2 ounces of shot and 5 Dr. Eq. of Progressive Burning Smokeless Powder in a 3 1/2" case was introduced in 1932.

My mentor, Louis Goland, would say to me when I was learning to shoot"a yank & a bang, you missed because you were not on it"----who knows what I was shooting an oz, 1 1/8, 1 1/4 or 20 oz's, other than.----I MISSED!!!

I finally came to the conclusion , if the target did not have feathers, I could not hit it !!!

That is my story & I am sticking to it. I never shot a 25, but I shot a ton of 24's.
Allan

those are some really good looking shot shell boxes i have some like them in 12 ga and 1 box of the 10 ga...also have a box of the early 10 ga 3 1/2 inch magnum in the record brand of shells....charlie

Why do I shoot 1 1/8 ounce loads at trap? Because I can’t shoot 1 1/4.

Yet another thread with information worth the price of admission! Thanks.

I shot pigeons last Saturday at a fun shoot. Bounced around between guns (because it was a fun shoot). Guns used; a Perazzi pigeon gun, an AL 391 trap gun, and a 1935 Parker Vent Rib trap gun. Shot all equally well, even though I shot 1 oz 8s, 1st bbl, and 1 1/8 oz 2nd BBL in the Parker.
The bystanders were amazed at how well the Parker performed, despite using the light loads.
After a bazzilion years of shooting, you start to learn how effective the lighter loads are. Bruised shoulders are for the newbies.

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You should have seen the 50 - 60 yard shots I was breaking with a full choke 20 gauge with 7/8 oz. of #8 pushed by 14 grains of 20/28 at our New Years Day shoot.





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