Other than near the Tanana River and on the Minto Flats, it's mostly very unproductive vegetated sand dune country between Wien Lk and Fairbanks. I've hunted the Minto Flats for many years but it's been so flooded the past few years that it's difficult to hunt these days. The island we camped on for decades is now submerged.

Might be good to add one of these magic guns to the long range pattern trial :rolleyes:

Sporting Life August 25, 1886 -
https://digital.la84.org/digital/col...oll17/id/21995

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thanks Drew-

I see these ads and wonder if any of these off brand "long range" guns survived use

More 3" "Long Range" guns

3" "Perfect" cartridge; 1904-1914 W.J. Jeffery & Co. catalogs

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VL&D were the U.S. agents for G.E. Lewis in 1923

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Davis Hy-Power 1927
"...parchment paper capsule that extends beyond the chamber into the bore of the gun."

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I tried to buy a Lewis 3" a couple years ago - it was originally shipped to Nova Scotia

one of the members here had owned it- sold or traded it to a dealer who offered me a price but had excuses for why he couldn't get me some detail photos.

that was a quality gun from a known maker

here is a thread from the member that owned it for a while

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...ighlight=lewis

John Olin deserves part credit for the renewed interest in longer effective range shotguns
in the 1920s. His Super-X 3 inch shells with improved progressive powders, copper plated shot reduced deformation and shot stringing at longer ranges. The HE Super Foxes in the hands of Nash Buckingham and others of the period increased the demand enough so that LC Smith, Fox, Parker and Winchester received more orders for their specialized 3-inch guns.

It is generally conceded that Burt Becker, Maj Charles Askins and AH Fox did a great deal of successful
work with the 3 inch HE Super Fox, and the results without question influenced the
hunting and shooting public. Achieving EFFECTIVE patterns on game at longer ranges
has been shown through Becker-bored Fox barrels to be: a unique style of over-boring, tapered polished forcing cones,
very tight chambers, specialized choke boring, and final bore extra polishing. Along with specialized 3 inch progressive powder shot shells.

Arguments to the contrary might surmise that other factors were in play with developing
the AH Fox HE Super Fox and Sterlingworth Wild Fowl Grades effectiveness. Unless empirical evidence is shown, I tend to withhold judgment. Becker did not sprinkle magic dust on his barrels to get the REPEATABLE pattern results that his barrels achieved.

All other factors being equal- the 3 in Parker, AH Fox, and LC Smith shotguns would send more effective pellets down range to their targets in the duck and goose marshes
than their shorter 12 gauge cousins. That being said, every shotgun has individual
performance characteristics.

[QUOTE=Bill Murphy;... "I think Capt. Crossman is forwarding information that he thinks is true, not what he has experienced. That is what we have seen in the gun press in the thirties through the seventies concerning shotguns. The authors were mostly rifle guys and spit out shared incorrect shotgun information in their writings."

Rather 'Muderlakian', wouldn't you say?

The Western Cartridge Co. Super-X (progressive burning powder, high-velocity) 12-gauge 1 1/4 ounce and the 20-gauge 1 ounce loads were introduced in 1922, put up in their 2 3/4 inch FIELD shell --

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The 1 1/8 ounce 16-gauge Super-X load followed later that year or early 1923, but put up in their 2 9/16 inch FIELD shell.

The 12-gauge 3-inch Super-X load of 1 3/8 ounce of shot, put up in Western's 3-inch RECORD case finally hit the market in the 1924-5 time frame --

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Super-X loads with the Lubaloy (copperized) shot first appear in the February 1, 1929, Western Ammunition for Rifle, Revolver and Shotgun.

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Those Lubaloy loads were mighty spendy. The list price of the RECORD 3-inch Super-X load with 1 3/8 ounce of chilled shot was $68.50 per thousand.

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For 1931, Western Cartridge Co. began loading all their smokeless powder shotgun shells with non-corrosive primers.

By 1933, Western Cartridge Co. was advertising their Seal-Tite wad in the Super-X loads --

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The Super-X loads continued to evolve. To my mind, the Super-X came of age, shortly after I was born, when they got the Super-Seal Cup Wad and the Super-Seal Crimp --

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I believe Parker was ahead of the curve with respect to barrel boring. I have a 1917 12ga #3 frame 12ga that was patterned with #1 shot and 2 7/8" chambers. The bores measure .740/.742 with chokes of .037/.040. I believe the barrel men in Meridan knew large shot patterned better in a over-bored barrel. I bet Becker, Olin and Fox started with that knowledge when they developed the 3" Super-X loads.