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John Dallas 04-03-2017 03:09 PM

Mr. Tony in Connecticut will sell you a Model 21 45.70 and a second set of 20 gauge barrels for only $65K
https://www.connecticutshotgun.com/p...70-26-20ga-28/

edgarspencer 04-03-2017 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by John Dallas (Post 215680)
Mr. Tony in Connecticut will sell you a Model 21 45.70 and a second set of 20 gauge barrels for only $65K
https://www.connecticutshotgun.com/p...70-26-20ga-28/

Amazing what those lasers can do.

Dean Romig 04-03-2017 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 215679)
There are three 450-400 cartridges; 2 3/8", 3" and 3 1/4".
I had a Royal grade double in 3.25, and I'm not sure I'd recommend that it a No.1, unless it was loaded way down.

Are you saying the action isn't strong enough?





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edgarspencer 04-03-2017 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 215683)
Are you saying the action isn't strong enough?

The 3 1/4" is right up there with the severe punishing cartridges, but the Number One action can probably handle the recoil. It's the stock to receiver construction I would be concerned about. There is a reason H&H used extended top and bottom tangs on those guns.

William Davis 04-03-2017 07:24 PM

From what I saw at the Vintage Cup, watching all day, the big cartridges are good for a few shots that's all. Guys that shot well one time fell way off 2nd and third go.

William

Dean Romig 04-03-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by William Davis (Post 215714)
Guys that shot well one time fell way off 2nd and third go.


It's called a "flinch" in shotgun circles. "Shell shock" in 'combat' circles.





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Rich Anderson 04-04-2017 10:26 AM

There are rumors that Ruger is going to discontinue the #1. I hope not as it's a great rifle. I have a line on one in 6.5X55 that's the international but it's stainless and I'm not so sure about that.
A gun I most regret selling was a #1 AB in 7X57. It had nice wood and was a pleasure to carry and to shoot. I sold it when I had a custom bolt gun built in the same caliber and didn't see a need for two of them. That's was 25 years ago and I have never seen another in that configuration.

William I have a #1 in 450-400 3" NE and while I can push a 300gr bullet way faster than it needs to go I enjoy shooting a reduced load of about 1800 FPS using a Hornady XTP pistol bullet. If your looking for a #1 in 405 Steve Barnett has a nice one on his web site.

John Allen 04-04-2017 10:35 AM

There is a VH receiver and stock on sale now on guns international for $600.That could be a good start to a rifle project.

Dennis E. Jones 04-05-2017 01:04 PM

Putting rifle barrels on double shotgun actions can work well or not at all depending on the action and the rifle caliber. I put a set of 30-40 Krag barrels on a SKB 20 gauge action and it didn't work out. The action would try to spring open when fired. I didn't discover it until I was down to final regulation and putting the ribs on. It was a waste of time and money.

If you're serious about trying to put a set of rifle barrels on a Parker action I would get in touch with Ellis Brown : www.ellisbrowncustomshop.com or ellis450@hotmail.com.

He literately wrote the book and taught classes on "Building Double Rifles on Shotgun Actions". He's a super nice very helpful guy. He can tell you how to select an action for such a conversion. And he of course does that type of work.

I love double's whether smooth or rifled and have looked at and considered buying a double in 405. I don't need one but I would sure enjoy one.

edgarspencer 04-05-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis E. Jones (Post 215828)
Putting rifle barrels on double shotgun actions can work well or not at all depending on the action and the rifle caliber. .

The reverse is also very true, although it's a far less common occurrence. Many years ago, (1974-5ish) There was a fabulous little Westley Richards Drop Lock action double rifle in .300 Sherwood at Safari. The bores were virtually gone. As you can imagine, this was a tiny little gun; aabout the size of a 00 framed Parker. No one wanted the gun, and ammo was all but non existent too. Eventually, someone bought the gun and bore it out to a .410. It was a dismal failure as it was nowhere near balanced and the replacement top rib was not in keeping with the quality of the gun.
Today, it would be a no brainer, to have the gun bored and sleeved, and with the original cartridge too. A real shame.
So many of the old Rook rifles were spoiled this way.


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