Dean, I knew what you met when I read your response to my first thread and I think the word expensive would have been a much better choice in hindsight. Since I was too lazy to go back and see who started this dialogue, I addressed my second thread to you to share other observations, my perceptions, and yes to inject a little humor. Craig

Finally, and a question to all the participants of this thread. What gun is a better bargain Ed Muderlak's new in the box Trojan 12 which sold more than a decade ago at auction for 10K plus buyer premium or Tony Galazan's GHE 12 which appears to be a 92-95% gun for 15K. Personally I can't decide.

Parkers are not about bargains; Parkers are about stewardship.

A new in box Trojan is a gun for the serious collector. It is a benchmark Parker. To the true collector it is not a gun to be fired. It is one of the centerpieces of a coveted collection.

A 92-95% GHE 12 is a different story altogether. It has been fired. It may be fired again. In fact, it is highly likely that it will be fired again.

There is a man for each of these guns and to ask us to choose which we would prefer is like asking if we would prefer a really fine painting or a two year old Ford 4X4.




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Jeff a bargain is not only buying something cheap but also an agreement or contract. When I buy a Parker, I try to strike a bargain. It helps to attain ownership of a Parker before you begin stewardship. Dean, yes the two guns are very different. My point of choosing between the two is the two guns represent the best condition for there respective grade and gage that I recall. Both guns are very desirable to collectors and I'm curious why one collector would choose to own one over the other. After pondering my choice for 24 hrs I would choose the GHE , its a lot prettier. If I owned The GHE it would never have anything in its chambers but snap caps, never leave my home unless in a hard case, and never be exposed to the outdoors. I realize that if I spent a full pheasant season hunting the GHE I might be able to reduce its value by as much as $3000-$4000 and I'm sure that grouse hunting it in the Adirondacks for 2 seasons would reduce its value to the point that nearly everyone who reads this forum could afford the gun. No I'm not negotiating with Tony to own it.

I commented about Ed's Trojan, but I'm not sure I got the details right, so I deleted. It was a nice gun.

I was never aware of those details Bill.
Are those details documented somewhere?




Oops... Maybe I should delete my question too?
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The reason I asked is I was in the process of buying a couple GHE Rem guns. I have posted the detail in a new thread on the guns.

Well I'm glad this thread got your butt in gear on those other two guns :rotf: Those two are great finds.

Dean, I mistakenly thought that a Julia Trojan that sold for $9200 plus BP was Ed's old gun. I discovered that Ed's gun was another Julia gun that truly did sell for over ten grand. I have two benchmark Trojan 12s in my collection and wouldn't even think about taking them out into the bush. Details on Ed's gun are in old PGCA forum posts and on Julia's site.