Well Dan it's great that you got the Miller tigger figured out, but like I said at the shoot now you need to get to work on figuring out the Parker single trigger..... Eric

Eric,

I can fix any Parker single trigger.....by swapping it out for a Miller! Ha! Seriously though, we're willing to take a look at problem triggers from other makes. We'll do no harm, if it's over our heads we'll stop and let you know. Many of the principles are the same from system to system.

I enjoyed talking with you at the shoot, hope to meet up again soon.

Best, Dan

Just to throw a wrench in the works...Here is a 1930 Charles Daly with a Miller with a different type of selector. Small lever in front of trigger swings right or left. Works as well as my other Millers!

Well I'll be.... :bowdown:

Thank you Dan. I added your excellent pics here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/22972484

Dan,

That's a big wrench!!! I looked through all of the patents and none show a selector like that. Likewise, we don't have anything similar in all of the leftover Miller "hardware" in our possession. After looking over the patents, I believe this selector is a variation, and based upon, Elmer's 1939 patent. I'd love to see the inside of that mechanism. My guess is that the resilient pin that works against the spring which selects the trip position is mounted in the top rear of the selector switch. In doing this he most likely omitted the lengthwise shaft that would have been connected to the original rocker button mounted at the forward end of the trigger body. Just a guess.

Very interesting, the Millers never cease to amaze me. Thanks for showing us, hopefully I'll get a chance to examine your gun some day.

Best, Dan

Miller Replacement of Parker ST.
 

Dan; I had a Parker DHE trap, 32 inch btfe, with the Parker SST marks present on the trigger plate. The Parker SST was replaced by the Miller with rocker selector. There were several Remington repair codes on the gun but these do not infer the type of repair.

Philosophical question - would a Miller trigger installed by the Millers be more or less desirable than a Miller installed by Remington?

Best, Austin

Another Question...Did Remington actually install Miller Triggers?

The nicest little 20ga Trojan I have seen is the one Larry DelGrego made for his grandson, L. D. III. It has a Miller nonselictive.

Austin and all,

No person or company that I know of was ever officially licensed by the Miller Company to install their triggers. They always retained the trademarks and kept it in house to the best of my knowledge (especially after their experience with Ithaca). There have been Miller triggers installed with take-out parts from other guns and I expect that practice continues to this day to some degree. If it is stamped Miller, however, it can be assumed that it was installed by the Miller Brothers, Doug Turnbull or now, us.

An acquaintance of Howard Miller's shared an anecdote with me at the Northeast shoot. He was visiting with Howard at his shop and Howard was talking about those that try to copy his trigger. He said, "A lot of people try to copy my triggers, but nobody has my hands." He said this as he was filing and fitting a trigger. What a cool story.

Dan