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Mills Morrison 07-30-2015 09:25 AM

Those holes do not look good, I agree. We have a moratorium on buying guns now, so probably best I did not see

Rick Losey 07-30-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 173755)
We have a moratorium on buying guns now,


so you have said

but you rose to this like a wild brookie to a royal coachman

:whistle:

Mills Morrison 07-30-2015 09:40 AM

The moratorium is barely holding on

CraigThompson 07-30-2015 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 173756)
so you have said

but you rose to this like a wild brookie to a royal coachman

:whistle:

Yuck a "Mr.Rapidan is far superior !

On "The Rapidan" generally sizes 14-20 :bigbye:

Michael Muth 08-02-2015 11:02 PM

Can the long ranges take modern 3"?

Rick Losey 08-03-2015 09:08 AM

its still 70 - 80 year old wood

i expect if the barrels are in original condition they could, I am sure someone like Researcher can tell us the standard proof pressures of 1930 Vs now

Dave Noreen 08-03-2015 12:53 PM

Pressure isn't the issue. SAAMI spec for 12-gauge (except for the new 3 1/2 inch) was then/is now 11500 psi. Up to 1935, 1 3/8 ounce was the heaviest payload being pushed out of the 3-inch 12-gauge progressive burning powder shells, and after that the 1 5/8 ounce 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum load was available.

Some of the older 12-gauge 2 3/4 inch and longer shells, with the heaviest loads which our North American ammunition manufacturers offered, 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot, had pressures above what SAAMI specs are now according to several old DuPont powder booklets I have. Then again, those booklets were promoting their DuPont Oval progressive burning smokeless powder and its higher velocity and lower pressure.

I'd certainly stick with lead and the softer non-toxics, no steel or other harder non-toxics. Though I shot quite a few 1 5/8 ounce 3-inch Magnums in my Super-Fox in my youth, I'd probably stick to 1 3/8 ounce at no more than 1300 fps now days.

Michael Muth 08-04-2015 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 174075)
Pressure isn't the issue. SAAMI spec for 12-gauge (except for the new 3 1/2 inch) was then/is now 11500 psi. Up to 1935, 1 3/8 ounce was the heaviest payload being pushed out of the 3-inch 12-gauge progressive burning powder shells, and after that the 1 5/8 ounce 12-gauge 3-inch Magnum load was available.

Some of the older 12-gauge 2 3/4 inch and longer shells, with the heaviest loads which our North American ammunition manufacturers offered, 3 1/2 drams of bulk smokeless powder or 28 grains of dense smokeless powder pushing 1 1/4 ounce of shot, had pressures above what SAAMI specs are now according to several old DuPont powder booklets I have. Then again, those booklets were promoting their DuPont Oval progressive burning smokeless powder and its higher velocity and lower pressure.

I'd certainly stick with lead and the softer non-toxics, no steel or other harder non-toxics. Though I shot quite a few 1 5/8 ounce 3-inch Magnums in my Super-Fox in my youth, I'd probably stick to 1 3/8 ounce at no more than 1300 fps now days.

Thank you!


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