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Robert Hanlin 04-21-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Stanton (Post 165860)
John has a point. You say "silver solder" . Silver solder is high temp stuff and not correct. A low temp alloy of tin should probably be used. Do some more research and get some advice from gunsmiths who do this type of work. It would bad for your reputation if you trash a set of Parker barrels.

I am not using silver solder... I know I said that in the beginning but I've read enough and heard enough to put that away. I have also contacted another gunsmith and will be getting with him shortly to be shown how to do this type of work.

Brian Dudley 04-21-2015 04:12 PM

I meant Soft soldered. Pardon my horrible auto correct on my phone. Never heard of Wolf solder either. Though one could speculate.

And when I say re-blue, I mean complete reblue. I would not think the results of spot bluing would be very desirable. But hey, some don't care what things look like.

Robert Hanlin 04-21-2015 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 165901)
I meant Soft soldered. Pardon my horrible auto correct on my phone. Never heard of Wolf solder either. Though one could speculate.

And when I say re-blue, I mean complete reblue. I would not think the results of spot bluing would be very desirable. But hey, some don't care what things look like.

Soft solder.. got it. Brian look. Apparently I've gotten off to a bad start in this forum. I saw your website and can appreciate the work that you do. Let me say this before I leave and never post here again. I take a lot of pride in the kind of work that I turn out for my customers and have for many years. Before I opened my shop, I did the same kind of work you do now for nothing more than the cost of materials. I work from home in a little shop out back.

Did I mention that I take pride in my work? Yes I did and I do! Sure I do what everyone else wants these days i.e. Duarcoat, Cerekote, etc etc but what I love doing the most is bringing back the old finishes. Slow rust bluing is always my first choice when re-bluing any firearm simply because, it's more durable than hot caustic bluing. Sure it takes a lot more work but the results are always worth it! and nothing beats bringing back a lost Damascus pattern in these old doubles! A lot of work involved? You bet it is but like I said before, it's always worth it in the end!

You say that spot bluing would not be desirable? Perhaps not but I suppose it really comes down to how much you are touching up in the first place. In the case of this double I'm repairing, there will be almost no trace of original finish missing once the job is completed. A touch up is all that is warranted. On top of that, I was only asked to repair the "loop" and was not asked to restore the barrels. A job I most certainly would prefer to do.

In any event, I apologize for spinning things up. That was not the intent when I mistakenly asked for help here.

Bill Holcombe 04-21-2015 08:43 PM

Ok......

Brian Dudley 04-21-2015 09:24 PM

Hey. Don't go anywhere. No ill intent meant towards you in my comment about people caring about the appearance of things. I was more speaking of some customers who do not understand the work and expense of takes to do a job right.

We are all here to help.

Chris Travinski 04-22-2015 06:26 AM

Robert, It's just a difference of opinions, the good thing about advice is you can take it or leave it. Brian is trying to help, not run you off!

Jeff Davison 04-22-2015 08:52 AM

First off, I’d like to say thank you to the posters on this thread. I’ve recently had several discussions with my teenage and preteen daughters about the appropriate actions and how they should treat someone when they ask them a question. I’ve tried to explain to them that talking to someone as if they are an idiot for asking isn’t the answer. If they don’t have an answer or can’t provide a positive response, it’s best to let someone else do the talking. They’ll go further in life. The second issue in the thread is to not let anyone ever tell you that you can’t or shouldn’t do anything. People usually do this because they don’t have the knowledge themselves, are afraid to attempt the task, or usually both. Of the list of experts in the field that were thrown out in the posts, I wonder how many times they were told not to do something they had never done? I wonder if Brad would have firearms in the NRA museum if he had listened to people like those posting the responses. How many people told Brian, "don't mess with it"? Hmmm. I say responses, because there was little information given about how to accomplish the task, which was the question. He never asked if he should do the task, however there were quite a few posts about how he shouldn’t be attempting it in the first place. Brian seemed to be the most willing to offer a solution. When I joined this organization recently I thought the following highlighted areas sounded good to me:

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Jeff Davison 04-22-2015 09:11 AM


Guess this is all lip service, if you’re not in the “know” then don’t bother?

Anyway, thanks for the practical example for me to show my daughters of what not to do. Though I wouldn’t have guessed it would come from here.

Jeff

Bill Holcombe 04-22-2015 09:11 AM

I am,sorry, but I didn't think anyone was being condescending to him. He was asking a question about a tricky repair. The posters responding had no idea of his knowledge or experience level. How many guns have been ruined by someone trying to home smith an issue that was beyond them?

After he made clear he had experience and wasn't someone trying to Bubba their gun advice and suggestions were Offered.

Helping people on this forum is as much about preventing them from damaging their guns as it is anything else.

While I was comfortable refinishing my stock, I wouldn't be at all offended if some of our more experienced members said I didn't need to try taking off my rib and putting it back on or recheckering my stock.

Oh and I agree with you Brian, I have seen spot bluing on colts, remingtons, and browning and it never looks quite right. Like you say though, it's a matter of opinion.

Gary Carmichael Sr 04-22-2015 09:38 AM

Just sitting on the sideline so to speak, listening to the comments, I wonder if he would have gotten different responses if he said he was working on his own gun? This site has the best knowledge of Parker Guns anywhere and I am sure the comments were in no way meant to be derogatory! Just my two cents, Gary


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