Since you don't seem to have a wall thickness gauge or a bore micrometer, tell us what the marked barrel weight is on the #1 frame gun. That will yield a "clue". They are some good looking project guns in my opinion. You haven't shown us the D stock or skeleton butt plate. We would like to see those. The D looks like one of those early ones with a serial number that may begin in a five.

The barrel on the shotgun that I primarily use for sporting clays looked far worse than the barrel on your DH as I had a split-bulge 1 1/2 inches long repaired! Take your time, have pros look at the guns and good luck! Brad can do wonders with the barrel. Many stocks are repairable if all the pieces are there. While you will not end up with a gun that looks like it just came from the factory you can end up with a good looking gun.

I actually do have a bore micrometer. Bore on the right barrel is .731. As I move the caliper down the barrel to where its damaged its obviously out of round. If I spin the bore gauge in that spot it'll go up to .740 and return to .730. Bore on the left barrel is .730. Both have a
.038 restriction.

The d serial number is 62735. Barrel weight is 3 10oz. As I said - the stock and skeleton butt plate is non original, doesn't fit and is in horrible shape. Even the butt plate doesn't look that good as I study it. The stock does have a number on it-tough to make out but I think is says 123564 or 123554, then its got a 3 under it. I'm thinking this means it was from a 3 frame gun because you can see where someone tried to narrow and shrink the front of the stock where it meets the receiver with a file so it matched up with the metal. Its still way proud of the metal. The original stock which was cut an obviously has an aftermarket pad ("black sheep"

Looking at the receiver it's got a 3 directly above the serial number. Almost makes me think it means its a 3 frame, but the barrels which do have a matching serial number definitely have a 1 on the lug. I don't see reference to this number on the from page. Maybe that's why someone found a replacement stock for a bigger gun. They thought it was a 3 frame.

The GH is serial number 75261. barrels are 4# 5oz.

the 1 on the lug is the frame size

the 3 by the serial number is the grade

the engraving style is does look like the 55k ones - since is is only a few hundred away

another 1 frame 30" 12

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The "3" on the stock is also the grade, not the frame size. I was close on the serial number of the D!

Ah- makes sense. That's why there is a 2 on the GH. Hmm- maybe I'll be moving this to the restoration thread. I've seen two names thrown out a lot in my searches for Damascus barrel repair- Brad Bachelder and Dale Edmonds- can I assume that either would be able to evaluate these and if a repair is possible perform it?

could not have gotten much closer Carnac :clap:


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Dale just redid some Damascus barrels for me and they turned out great. Lots of others on here have used Brad B with great results too.