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Christopher Lien 02-17-2020 12:58 PM

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Thanks Randy, In the 2 previous images of the guns with the exposed hinge pins, I believe one of them may be an early Fox.
Best, Chris
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Randy Davis 02-17-2020 01:21 PM

You`re welcome Chris... The Kansas State Sportsmen`s Association probably governed the shoot.

RD

Drew Hause 02-18-2020 05:09 PM

I looked through the Sporting Life archives for "Kansas State Sportsmen’s Association Tournament" and surprisingly there was very little information.
The first mention (but there was limited trapshooting coverage prior to 1895) was the 6th Tournament in May, 1895 at the Metropolis Gun Club, KC, KS
https://digital.la84.org/digital/col...d/48286/rec/49
That would mean the 1st was 1890 so the image would not be older that that IF it was from the State Championship.

May 1896 was in Frankfort, KS
https://digital.la84.org/digital/col...id/47366/rec/1

No tournament was listed 1897-1900, but Lou Erhardt had regular tournaments in Atchison, there were LOTS of shoots in Kansas City, MO.

I didn't find anything searching "Leavenworth, Kansas"

Dean Romig 02-18-2020 05:28 PM

Chris, respectfully, I believe it is a Parker.
I too had an idea it might be a Fox “pin gun” but in looking more closely I see reflections in the exact locations on the side pf the frame where screws are located on a Parker as well as the pin in the lower rear corner of the frame. Fox guns don’t have those.





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Drew Hause 02-18-2020 05:36 PM

J.A.R. used a Greener in 1891
Forest & Stream
https://books.google.com/books?id=9k...AAJ&pg=PR8&lpg

At the 3rd Grand American Handicap at Live Birds in 1895 he placed second using a Greener.

He was a Winchester Professional Rep using a Winchester 1893 shortly thereafter, then a 1897 Pigeon Grade.

Christopher Lien 02-19-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 293838)
Chris, respectfully, I believe it is a Parker.
I too had an idea it might be a Fox “pin gun” but in looking more closely I see reflections in the exact locations on the side pf the frame where screws are located on a Parker as well as the pin in the lower rear corner of the frame. Fox guns don’t have those..

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Good eye Dean, I was wondering about the screw head reflections as well. It was what appeared to be an upward more narrow cut of the frame lobe that had me thinking Fox. The shooter may have moved slightly during the photo exposure process, thus giving the frame a slightly different look?

Best, Chris
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Christopher Lien 02-19-2020 03:57 PM

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Drew & Randy, I'm still digging. Two of the shooters had Heikes hand protectors (pat1889) on their guns, and the photographers studio mount helps in dating the old photo. Current direction of my search is looking for a 5-Man Team defending a Kansas state trophy, and "Who" might have been 5 of the better or best Kansas shooters of the day to represent their state 1895-96. I'll certainly post it here when I find it.... Thanks again for the help fellas:)

Best, Chris
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Randy Davis 02-20-2020 09:24 AM

You`re welcome Chris... old photo display looks great!

RD

Randy Davis 02-20-2020 10:50 PM

Chris... We now know what is inscribed on the Trophy in the photo

Shooting & Fishing
State Championship
TROPHY
Emblematic of the
Team Championship of the state of
KANSAS

RD


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