bill: a magnet does stick to the receiver...googled dural sauer. very interesting use of non ferrous alloy. got the impression that dural is a fairly late development?

Your gun should have a date code on it.

German makers were using it for a while, at least back to the 1930's...

Post some close-up pictures of all of teh numbers/markings on the underside of the barrels. Like Bill said, a date code should appear. (IE: 8.27 or 8/27 would mean proof in August of 1927).

My Sauer hammer driller is 16X16X11.15X65. I shoot .410s out of the bottom barrel. It's a great little gun.

unfortunately, date code is not there. only the number 33 is visible. if this is sauer sourced gun, then 1933 fits with the serial number range...

Does it look like this Bill? I havent shot 410 yet. Can you shoot 410 slug?

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...1488483218.jpg

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...337/Muzzle.jpg

Can you post a picture of the underside of the barrel? I can help.

My Sauer looks like the pictured gun, side lever to open, top lever to select. I have not tried a .410 slug.

May favorite turkey gun happens to be a drilling given to me by my father. He acquired it from one of his old turkey hunting buddies years ago. 16x16x219 zipper, hammerless. Nicely engraved, cartridge trap, light for a drilling and topped with a 1.5x5 Leupold varixIII. A turkey killing machine!!!

Ed,

I saw the picture of your gun on the site you sent. I could not see a date on the bottom but I think it is pre-war based on some of the other markings.

k: input from a variety of sources seems to support the following scenario:

- gun was made by sauer in the mid thirties

- receiver was engraved and perhaps restocked in Belgium

will never know for sure...

Drilling entheusiest... Brenneke came out w new release... 16ga 2.5" slug for vintage combination or drillings... may.be a limited run...not sure.. bought a bunch just in case. Perfect for deer... cant wait!

Son and I are out for a hopeful test run...

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps843d598f.jpg

lovely looking pair of drillings..i have a griffen drilling its got 2 3/4 inch chambers and like yours has the quick detachable scope mount. i really like that option...mine also has a 22 magnum insert on the right side barrelthat also shoots to point of aim with the scope... my gun is a 16x22 magx7x54 r..the drillings are amazeing guns... charlie

Those are two beautiful drillers. My old Sauer gave up "pretty" many years ago. However, I sure like the hammers and the three barrels of shotgun capability. When shooting preserve birds, I select the lower .410 barrel, cock and shoot. Recock and move lever to the left to shoot the two 16 gauge barrels. It happens way quicker than you think. A successful .410 shot on a big cockbird always draws attention from your partner. It is an interesting routine to practice on a skeet field, although I don't think I've ever done it. Your puller sends a single, then a slow report pair of doubles. I have shot skeet with a mix of 16s and .410s though. Unfortunately, you have to move the top lever between shots on doubles.

Bill, That reminds me of the day I took out my Otto Geiger, made by Merkel, with my dad. A nice plump cock went up and all I heard was 'click'. Instinctively, I pushed the selector forward, from years of double gun shooting.
My dad got the bird and all I got was a ribbing.
I assume you're shooting the .410s out of the 11mm barrel. Are they plastic wad .410s?

Bill's technique sounds only slightly more difficult than rubbing your belly and patting your head

Yup, the .410s are shot out of the 11.15MM barrel and they are plastic wad shells from my PW800.

I also shot 44WCF out of my 11.15 barrel with pretty good accuracy. Kinda like shooting CB caps out of a long rifle chamber.

Hmmmm... Can you shoot 410 slug in 11.15? I have the 11.15x65r in a hammer sauer as well. Never tried shooting the rifle.

Edgar, any particulars on the 44-40 you can share?

Where did you buy the slugs ?

Thanks.

here is a link to a listing of the distributors.

http://www.germanguns.com/upload/sho...-Classic-Slugs

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Thanks !

These will be great out of my combination gun !

The 11/15x60R, used in drillings and combination guns, is a straight tapered case,(probably Collath in origin)not the same as the 11.15x60R Mauser, which is a bottleneck case.
The mauser cartridge uses .439" bullet, but the straight tapered case use a .453" bullet.
The .44WCF drops right in, and because its a very short bullet, it doesn't tumble. The bullet is much smaller than the 11.15, so don't expect bench rest accuracy, it's just a good, 50 yard plinker. I never tried 44 Special, and don't remember the dimensions.
11.15x60R straights are made by trimming and fire-forming 9.3x74R cases.
Lyman makes a .453 mold, and I used soft lead only, no tin or antimony. Lots of people use linotype (or used to use it) but it's way to hard for old barrels. I only worked up one smokeless load, but 60 grains of ff is about what the original was loaded with.
Nontes book gives many of these conversions.

I would check your chokes, especially in the left barrel before using slugs. They are often tighter than a bull's @$$.
I wouldn't shoot .410 slugs in the 11.15x 60mm barrel, only because they are very much smaller than the bore, and soft and may lead the hell out of the gun.

Depends on the gun. Those pictured are f/m and the other is a little more open..cant remember but as you state some are extra full in the left which I personally wouldn't shoot. I would certainly heed your thoughts and check before use.

agree with the slug on the 410... thanks for the reply.