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You might ask Chuck Bishop about that. I think we have a good idea about the percentage of 12s that are on the #3 frame. Less than 1% would be my empirical guess. Empirical guess is an oxymoron, but probably correct.
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I have a 1916 12ga. VHE 3 frame equipped with 36" barrels. I bought it from somebody on the West coast. Can't remember his name.
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Not nearly as amazing as some of the previous 3 frames, is my 1901 Gh damascus 32 in. 12 Ga.. Dented , used and abused it was brought back to pleasing to the eye configuration by Craig Smith (barrels), and Tom Geasey (stock). Balances on the pin at 8 lb 11 oz.
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Amazing is some of the work turned out by backwoods gunsmiths. George Blair's mention of Tom Geasey is an example. I was in a friend's gun room not long ago and asked about a rifle that appeared to be a product of Griffin and Howe or some such. It was just a perfect example. I would have written a check right there. It was built by Tom Geasey.
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OK, Here is a grade 3 hammer gun in 12g a on a three frame, the letter does not mention the frame size but as you can see for a 30" gun it weighs in a 9lb bear with me I do not know how to post more than 5 photos in one post so I have three post Gary
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I guess you all know that you can double click and get a close up of these photo's
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them 3 frame 12 s sure got thick breach ends...and gotta love the 36 inch barrel one... charlie
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keep them 3 frame 12 s a coming.. charlie
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The three that Jent knows about brings us up to 14 or 15 different guns on this thread. For those searching for records on #3 frames, the order for gun #125,757, a 12 gauge DH, includes the notation "2 1/2 frame". The weights for the 32" and 28" barrels are 8 pounds, 7 ounces, and 8 pounds, 4 ounces. The order for gun #136,923, a 16 gauge VH, specifies "2 1/2 frame", 28" barrels and 8 pounds, 13 ounces. The order for my DH magnum ten Lefever sleeved gun (from 12 gauge) does not specify a frame size.
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Scott K. reminded me that Jay Shacter had a 3 frame VHE 12ga straight stock with a lot of cast off in the stock at Hausmanns shoot last June. The lower tang was visibly bent. The gun fit me very nice.
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Since I have finally acquired such a gun I thought I would add it to this thread.
Its an 1890 DH, 2 barrel set. 10 gauge 32" and 12 gauge 30", weighs 9lbs even with either barrel on. 12 gauge barrel was added in 1913 at parker bros. |
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Since we've reawakened this thread, here is my DH project which now includes a set of 30" 3 frame 12 gauge barrels
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i too have a 3 frame 12 ga with 30 inch barels and weighs 9 1/4 lbs...reckon how many of these guns have 3 inch chambers mine only has 2 3/4 inch chambers...charlie
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I own two #3 Frame 12's, a CHE with 32" bbls, factory 2 7/8" chambers, a DHE with 30" bbls.
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Only the one here
32 inch barrels - .035 and .038 chokes - 8 1/2 pounds- VH the wrist was broken in three places (two did not go all the way through- one was side to side but the stock had not separated)- they are fixed and a reinforcing rod installed down into the pistol grip from under the top tang, and the stock refinished - the checkering still needs to be recut http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=8319 |
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finally got the repaired 3 frame out in the marsh where it belonged ( i had shot several rounds of clays with it this summer) but this is what it was meant for - saw lots of ducks - but few would commit- but it was still a great day out with friends http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=8517 |
Rick: Great ducker!!! Just need to get the checkering cleaned up and it will be perfect. I only wish you had passed on it and it was in my gun safe. :rolleyes:
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i know, the wood overall looks good- freshened checkering will really make it pop
thanks for the push it took to finish the deal :rotf: PS all- had some time to color correct the picture ( took it with an old beater waterproof camera) |
So how many are out there, and how many are hammer guns? gary
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Just me being a jelly head Rick, sorry.
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i also have a 3 frame 12 barrel weight is 5lb 14 ounce the barrel is 30 inch damacus chokes are about mod and modefied...a 3 frame also good on squirls too....charlie
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Gary, Austin's old lifter gun is a #3 frame 32" 12, about the last lifter made. I was offered the gun years before Austin showed up with it, but declined because I had no idea how rare it was. I begged Austin to sell it to me, but it was his favorite skeet gun and he would not sell it to me. After his death, I bought it when his estate guns were sold. It was a long search, but now I am shooting one of my friend Austin's guns.
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Bill, You have to stay in the hunt like you say, glad you were able to finally get his gun, it is a pretty rare piece, Gary
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Gary, it is an absolute "horse". One of a kind. And I'm used to the the eight gauges.
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I thought I chimed in long ago on this thread. I have a #3 frame 32" 12 and a #3 frame DH 28" 12. The 28" gun is from 1903 has a flat rib and weighs in at 9.5. So short and so heavy. The original owner (from the Parker letter) was out of PA and was a pigeon shooter. The letter stated he wanted it patterned with 1 1/4 oz #7. Maybe he used in the pigeon ring. Who knows.
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