I am decided to list the gun for sale in the Members Section before going to Gunbroker or an Auction House.

I have not seen it there yet.

:corn::

I suspect he's been busy answering PM's :whistle:

Out of town for the weekend - hopefully will post Monday PM - or interested parties can PM me with questions. STILL not sure what it is worth.

You mean your taking offers until Monday ? ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A OFFER !

OK - In response to the interest, I have put up an Ad.

i ll start the bid with a dollar.. but then if it were my gun it would not be for sale... charlie

I can't find any mention of them in the letter.

I looked in The Parker Story, page 158 and the picture provided by Eric above. I interpret one repair code as RJ3, which I translate as meaning the repair or alteration or whatever was done in November of 1940. The 3 in RJ3 has no lookup chart in TPS that I can find.

The other repair code XP3 I can only translate that the work was done in November, the P not being in the year codes. Am I misreading the P? Is it a B (1955)?

The "V Grade 20 gauge" stamped on the lug matches the protocol shown in the picture of the lug of the D grade 20 on page 162, which is in the chapter about Parker/Remingtons.

In TPS I can't find any examples of the serial number stamped in the same location as on Eric's gun. But there aren't very many pictures of Parker/Remington barrel flats either. I don't own any Remington Parkers and so don't have any examples to compare this to.

On page 129 in TPS they discuss reports of aftermarket ejectors by third parties and give an apparently first hand account of a BH, serial number 79051. with non-standard ejectors.

The pictures of Eric's knuckle and forend iron look identical to my Parker ejectors guns. The serial number on Eric's forend iron is in the same location as my ejector guns. The May 1 1901 patent date appears on Eric's forend iron in the same place as it does on my guns. It seems to me that someone would have had to tig weld up, re-stamp, re-case color, and re-patina the serial number in the forend iron or they started with a forend iron without a serial number on it like the Parker/Remington factory would have. Same thoughts on the water table. Seems to me unlikely that a rascal would go to all that trouble for such a high cost to low benefit ratio effort.

I don't know when Parker or Parker/Remington first started putting "Overload Proved" in an oval on the barrel flats or "Made in the USA" but there might be some time information there.

Eric that is a cool gun. Thanks for posting it here.




Best,


Mike

I don't know about the repair codes, only that they are repair codes. As for "third party ejectors", that's not what they are. They are Parker ejectors. As for the forend, no part of an extractor forend, including wood, was used by Parker or Remington to make an ejector gun. This is not the forend that came on the gun. As for the V Grade markings on the lug, Remington replacement barrels were almost always marked V Grade. Only barrel lugs on Remington made guns were normally marked with the actual grade of the gun. This gun is absolutely right, and factory modified, regardless of any omission in the letter. Rich's statement about the letter documenting the barrels was an oversight, but PGCA letters will almost never address any specific Remington modifications.

After another look, I think PJ3 is June 1940, and XF3 is December 1937, the barrel date. The ejectors and forend were probably installed with the barrels. The single trigger was installed probably on one or the other of the dates. What a piece of Parker-Remington history.

The serial number, 84040, on the left barrel flat against the lug is exactly the way Remington stamped the serial number on the barrel assembly. Bill answered all of the other questions.

Does anybody know when Parker / Remington started stamping "Made in the USA" on the barrel flats?

Insightful that you should ask, Mike.

Not at end of production in 1939, assuming this gun is representative of production marking.

Thanks Bruce. In your picture the "PARKER GUN WORKS" stamped through the oval "OVERLOAD PROOVED" matches Eric's BH exactly.

I read in TPS this morning that Remington Parker production ceased in 1942.

Best,

Mike

I think there is always a little speculation when desifering anything dead men did, clear back to the stone age. They think they can read hirowglfrics (picture words). But who really knows. The dead guys!

What happened to the pictures that Eric posted? I realize someone added some of them to the 'for-sale' thread, though perhaps not all. Removing the pictures from this thread sure makes the original questions, and responses seem like walking into the room right after someone delivered the punchline.

The latest gun I own is " 241685 " and it is not stamped on it either ! Russ

I am posting this because I found another set of Parker barrels with "Made in USA" stamped on them.

Here is another set of barrels stamped "Made in USA" on a Parker 20 advertised on GunsInternational:

http://images.gunsinternational.com/...306682-2-L.JPG

It is an A Grade two barrel set and I think the barrels shown in the picture I linked to are what the seller states are the original barrels.

Here is a link to the classified:

http://www.gunsinternational.com/Par...n_id=100306682

Here is an image of of the barrel flats on Mr. Olsen's gun:
http://parkerguns.org/forums/attachm...1&d=1352762245

[QUOTE=Mike Shepherd;90188]I am posting this because I found another set of Parker barrels with "Made in USA" stamped on them.

Here is an image of of the barrel flats on Mr. Olsen's gun:
QUOTE]

That's Mr. Noble's gun now! :whistle:

Mike, is there to be an A in your future?:)
Thanks for the post!

Both of the barrels for that AH have multiple Remington repair codes. The "Made in USA" barrels (the ones they believe are reproduction) have a repair date of 1937, the same date as the replacement barrels for my BH. Perhaps that was only done for a while in that year?

Congratulations David! I really like that gun. I am queer for lightweight small bores. I have gone back and looked at your (now) BHE20 several times.

No new-to-me AHEs for me. Just looking at what is out there.

Best,

Mike

Congratulations David
That is a great gun. It needs a PP story.

Seems a likely theory to me.

I couldn't read the repair codes on your gun clearly. Would you mind telling me what the one toward the breech was? "XP" or "XF" or "X?"

thanks,

Mike

Yes. Where are the pictures of this gun?

Mike, the codes are XF3 and RJ3. Here are some pics.

Oh that's nice David. I especially like the checkering and the straight grip stock. And it is light. And the barrel was built to shoot shells with the same pressures as our current shells. I have no idea what you look like but you will look good walking in to flush the bob white from in front of the dog if you are carrying that.

Thanks for the date code answer.

Best,

Mike

Notice in the PGCA letter, the gun made in 1896, after being sent to at least three expositions, was finally shipped to A. A. Kellogg, a popular hunting and fishing store in New Haven in October 1898.
The first time the gun was returned for service, the letter says the owners name was Fred Brewester. The second time it was returned his last name is Brewster. I'm curious if this was a mistake in the PGCA letter or in the original order books?
I'm also curious about the "redress stock and tip" part. Could it be that is when the skeleton buttplate was removed and the butt recheckered? And what is the "tip" referring to?

Aside from cleaning up a couple of screws, that gun should NOT be touched!

I would like to touch it, fondle it, maybe even shoot it. Thats a dandy.

That gun is absolutely beautiful. Would the present owner like to adopt me? It is the Christmas season after all and I am careful with my toys.

Dennis