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Thank you, Kenny. Very well said and it conveys what I think we all look for in a pleasant day afield whether game is harvested or not. Recently I hunted California Valley Quail with my GH 12 gauge. Though I did not even see a bird just the pleasure of carrying the gun brightened my day. Halfway up a steep hill, they didn't seem so steep when I was 25, I would stop to rest and marvel at the swirls of the case coloring, the smallness of the grip, the quality of the engraving or the richness of the wood. What a fulfilling day.
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Could not have said it better. I love both the Repro's and the original guns I own. Shoot them both and take them for exactly what they are, nice guns to be used and enjoyed.
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John, Many are stocked with Claro. Maybe most, I dunno. But, there are many stocked in what looks like U.S. westcoast grown English walnut to me. Some also look like Black walnut to me. I think the source of the wood may have been from the wood company in California, owned (started for the Parker Reproductions?) by the Mr. Skeuse. It seems we covered this subject with Richard Skeuse here and he provided some information on the wood source. |
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Well I don't own a reproduction, not that they are not good guns but, when I have in my hands a high grade old Parker hammer gun and look at the craftsmanship that went in to making the gun, and taking into account what they had to work with its just not the same. For me I'll take "old Parkers, old dogs, and watermelon wine any time!
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I'll bring the old Parkers and the dogs to the Southern. You bring the watermelon wine. Sounds delicious. |
I have owned several of both, new & old, but now own and use only a couple nice Reproductions. I like the modern stock dimensions and the fact that I don't need to be concerned about shooting higher pressure loads.
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I like the old look and feel of the originals. I also shoot well with low pressure loads. Also like the generally lower prices for vintage shooters. Still would not mind having one or two reproductions for shooting modern loads. With a little luck, I will get one or both of my Dad's reproductions.
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[quote=Mills Morrison;64488].... Still would not mind having one or two reproductions for shooting modern loads. ..../quote]
If by this comment, you are implying that a person is not able to shoot "modern" loads through an original Parker, that would be in error. All a person needs to do is to look at the Parker service and proof load table in TPS to dispel that notion. There is nothing infirm or lesser about an original Parker. Both vintage and Repros were designed to shoot SAAMI standard service loads, and I argue that applies to damascus barreled guns as well, since Parker did not treat them differently. A person may choose to shoot lesser loads in any gun, after all, who wants to pound his shoulder and gun needlessly, but there is nothing less capable about the barrels on a vintage Parker. In fact, if the reports of Repro stock fractures through the wrist are to be believed, I suggest that it could be argued that Repros are less capable than originals. Parker provided tables matching gun weight and gauge to load for best shooting; those apply equally to vintage and Repro guns. |
Thanks for the correction. I have a growing collection of Damascus barreled Parkers and enjoy shooting them. Don't quite have the nerve to shoot modern loads in them, but I actually enjoy shooting low pressure RST loads. Something about the low recoil and weight of the Damascus barrels that improves my shooting.
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Oh man, first they tell me I can't shoot my damascus guns, and now they tell me I can't shoot 'modern' loads in my steel barreled guns. What's next? I guess I'll just sit on this stump and let the guys with those up and down guns get the birdies.
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I worry more about the wood than the bbls, especially, as Bruce says, on those pesky Reproductions. Trigg had a Repro20 that broke a stock. He sent it off and had a new stock made and on the first test shot it broke clean in half again. Some bad juju going on there somehow. I tailor my loads to the gun and shoot light loads in light guns with thinner stocks and bbls and heavier loads in heavier guns with stout wood and bbls. It's a matter of "it's supposed to be fun" and not an exercise in shoulder punishment. My stout 32" 1883 twist bbl 12ga hammer gun doesn't even burp when digesting old paper 1-1/2oz magnums and the recoil isn't bad at all. My wand-like 26" 6#10oz GHE 12 never gets anything heavier than a lightly loaded 1oz load and we're both much the happier for it and that puppy is deadly on woodcock and ruffies... and chukars...... and pheasants.... and sharptails.
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Here is a photo of Parker Reproduction and an original Parker VH in nice shape. They both make me happy.
Below them is a picture of me waiting for doves with an original Parker VHE. Below that is a picture of me with an old departed friend and a Parker Reproduction. I had fun both times and didn't think much about when either gun was made or by whom. Finally, this is a picture of a cookstove in our kitchen that we use all the time during winter, which lasts 8 months here. My wife and I were once part of a Christmas home tour and a woman on the tour asked me if this stove was a "repo". I told her no it most certainly was not but was made in 1923 and was fully paid for. :) |
What gauge is that stove?
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I don't think it matter since it "fires" whatever I put in it.
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I have only one Parker "Repro" and it is a 28ga gun. From what I have seen, an original will start some where north of 15000.00.....I would never have had the pleasure of having one at that price. Dont get me wrong, I have plenty of Original Parkers, Foxes, Smiths, WC Scotts, JP Sauers etc etc and use them all when I hunt. But, the 28ga has captured my affection and while the Merkels, Aya's and Arreittas I have are wonderful, this is the only way I would be able to have a Parker of any kind in 28
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You are right. I want a Parker 28 and a reproduction is the only way I will be able to afford one. My favorite gun in my collection is a Parker Trojan 20, although I have higher grades.
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My favorite (not to stray to far from the focus of the thread) is a Parker VH O frame 20ga which has been completely redone and is a seductive looking thing. It even opens and closes as if new....so, a face lift is always an option:)
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Pretty is as pretty does
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I'm in the boat with you guys that can't afford and/or justify an original Parker of similar grade/gauge, but can acquire a reproduction within the scope of my budget. I think this is exactly what Tom Skeuse envisioned.
I also have some redone vintage guns that I really enjoy. I bought most of them relatively cheaply because of their poor and inoperable condition. |
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