Here is a candidate for dried up and sat leaned up against a wall for 50 years or so without use or moving much if at all. Not saying it would be much better if it had sat on the barrel or any other way .. but .. here it is

I just became a member. I guess it hasn't shown yet on my post badge. I joined the forum awhile ago, mostly because I spend most of my time learning.

I use a number of lubricant's, that has been mentioned here. The trick is use what ever you use sparingly.
Many times I use Ballistol but don't like the smell. Ezzox is what I am currently using. It works great and has a very pleasant odor. I like to use socks to protect the guns as I don't like metal to metal contact.

Not exactly. This is the original pad on my Fox XE20 gauge. Note that it has a cheek piece and it was ordered and built that way.

The gun has been stored horizontally, and dark, for the last 38 years and this is what the pad ended up looking like. There was no weight on the pad.

Jolly, aka Bill Jolliff

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If it bothers you that much Bill, old buddy, old pal, I'll take it off your hands and see what I can do with it.:):whistle:

Good for you, Jeremy — welcome!

Would you share what brand bluetooth hydrometer and dehumidifier you are using? Thanks.

I've had the doubles, and rifles, that are in my safe muzzle down for roughly 25 years.The safe is carpet lined on floor and all interior walls. I've never opened the safe and seen where one has fallen over on another. It just doesn't happen.

Newton's First Law of Motion states that an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless an external force acts upon it. Similarly, if the object is at rest, it will remain unless an unbalanced force acts upon it. Newton's First Law of Motion is also known as the Law of Inertia. What Newton's First Law is saying is that objects behave predictably.

Pretty sure guns are not exempt from this. If the gun is in a balanced state when you close the safe it will be in a balanced state when you open it. Nothing nefarious will be going on in there just because you can't see them, and I'm pretty sure the safe isn't going to be acted upon by any outside force sufficient to cause guns to fall over.

Where is Albert E when you need him!

It's all relative Reggie.

Jollif is right. A deteriorated or flattened pad has nothing to do with the gun standing butt down in a safe. No, I have no idea what causes it but it must have something to do with temperature or humidity.

I don't have any idea or clue why that pad did what it did. Pads on other guns did not change, ie, get worse.

Here's what it looks like:

1st picture is the west end of my root cellar (gun room). 4 concrete block walls and a cement floor and ceiling under our back porch. Nice and dry but I do run a dehumidifier in warmer months. You'll notice the 2 gun rack I made in wood shop when I was a freshman in high school back in 1950.

2nd picture a little closer showing my vertical gun chest and the horizontal one that looks more like a settee.

3rd and 4th picture with my horizontal gun chest open. Note that it is a Treadlock. It will accommodate 24 double guns nicely in the three racks that I made that hold 8 guns each. Those are all Fox's in there.

And Daryl good buddy, thanks for your offer. But dam, I lost your phone number.

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OK; I'll say it: they look funny standing on the muzzle :biglaugh:

Bill, I showed your guns to my wife. She now knows there are husbands with worse afflictions than mine. Thanks. John

I started my career working for Garlock a rubber products company. I believe the reason Bill's Fox pad deteriorated was the rubber was not properly vulcanized when made. I believe rock hard pads results from the loss of the lubricates originally compounded with the rubber. Same reason vinyl gets hard and cracks with age.

There are many husbands on this forum that are worse John. And don't show her the picture below.

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When I first asked my question I envisioned something like Bill Joliff posted. Never occurred to me to have muzzle down.
I became conflicted. I want to do the “right” thing for the small collection I have. But certainly see the joy in looking at the display Bill has. Joy is important as we get older and face health issues.
My short term solution is muzzle down in a dry closet. The more precious one or two Parkers I have will be in the safe.
Really though, I want to hook up the old table saw in the barn and build a display rack.
My wife even approves of something small in the living room. She shares my joy.

I've always been a muzzle up kinda guy. Have any of you muzzle-downers ever had a rust problem on the muzzle?

Not in 25 years, nosir.

I have always thought that original pads were made of natural rubber and post WWII pads were composed of synthetic rubber.