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Rich Anderson 05-05-2011 08:38 AM

If an organization has to gain membership through coercion than what quality is there in either?

Any membership based group thrives on the membership but it's a voluntary membership. As in any organization 90% of the work is done by 10% of the members.

calvin humburg 05-05-2011 08:57 AM

Coercion, you stumped me with that one gonna have to ask Webster.

Mark Ouellette 05-05-2011 09:13 AM

Calvin,

I keep a hard copy of Webster's on my desk for just such an emergency! :)

Mark

Pete Lester 05-05-2011 09:24 AM

Dear John, wow that sounds weird. I hope you can work through this and keep this forum functioning as you have. Several years ago when I was overseeing a group of 500+ Hunter Education instructors I learned a couple of things real fast. First, no matter what I did I would never please them all. I figured if I was keeping 400 of them satisfied I was doing a good job. Same principle applies here for you. I also learned that the volunteers contributed at different levels and in different ways. Some guys were in drag race to hold the title of teaching the most courses, other guys were simply happy to help with the upkeep of the public archery ranges. I learned that anybody contributing anything was valuable, no matter how little it all helped me run the program.

This forum is the premiere double gun site. This forum is a communication tool. From informing us of shoots, coordinating our attendance at them, reloading recipes, guns for sale, on-line diagnosis of gun problems, recommendations of gun smiths, nice pictures to look at, stories of hunts, on-line appraisals, parts for sale, hunting stories, tall tales, good natured ribbing etc. etc. etc.

If you saw a nice picture, got a piece of useful advice, a line on a gun or part for sale, a reloading recipe, advice on a gunsmith, does it matter if you got it from a member of the BOD, Life, Annual, Forum member or even a lurker? Everybody here has a love of the Parker Gun, they may have a large collection or a single Trojan. Everyone who has read or participated in this forum for a short period of time has either gained or given something to the love of all things Parker.

You can be proud of all this. I hope and encourage you to brush it all off and continue what you are doing.

Dean Romig 05-05-2011 09:37 AM

Pete, I applaud your wisdom and your ability to express it so well. I agree with everything you've stated above and join you in suggesting to John to let it go, take a deep breath and start fresh... please.

Mark Landskov 05-05-2011 05:36 PM

Aside from the NRA and the VFW, the PGCA is the only fraternal order I belong to. I have learned alot from many people here on the forum, and enjoy reading about other people's guns and their history, too. My two 1870s 'Lifters' are, by no stretch of the word, pristine, but they are quite usable. I do not mind using a 'nom de plume' to protect my identity, and certainly do not feel emasculated by using RST and Polywads in my 'Plain Twist' barrels. I am grateful for having a classy forum like this to hang out at! Thank you, John, for your dedication.

John Dunkle 05-05-2011 07:43 PM

You folks are amazing.. I mean it... My sincerest thanks to all of you who posted in this thread and sent me messages (and flowers???!!!).. :shock:

I think one of you summarized it pretty well when you PMed me and said: "John, don't take yourself so seriously... No one else does?"...???

But, that's probably true.. It's also true that I can't just leave you folks to fend for yourself -which - in and of itself is a scary thought..? So - to rectify that situation, I will be posting the following on the job site: Monster.com - to some day, or some year (did I say "year"?) find a suitable replacement....

I'll keep you folks posted if I get any victims (err - I mean "candidates"?), but in the meantime - I apologize that you folks appear to be "stuck with me"... I really don't know if I feel sorrier for me - or for you???

;)

Oh - the job posting (feel free to edit, add or suggest anything I may have missed, OK?):

Quote:

Wanted:
Administrator, Moderator, Computer Technician, Software Programmer, Physicist, School Bus Driver, Psychoanalyst, and Psychiatrist. Must be certifiably certified in all areas.

The successful candidate will possess the following:
  • Ability to write code for any device including pacemakers, wrist watches and staplers;
  • Ability to construct high performance Internet servers from empty egg boxes;
  • Ability to install, support and maintain a high speed data network from their home, boat, canoe or RV;
  • Ability to support Internet Forum users on logging onto a web forum, troubleshoot, diagnose and fix remote user's e-mail, browser and website issues from users who possess limited technical ability.

Requires expertise in all languages invented since Pascal, and preferably including every toolset and language with a three letter word (OOP, PHP, SQL, ASM. ARM, iHA, CLI, GSM, ATG, XML).

Must be conversant in all forum and texting TLAs/FLAs (without a decoder ring) including OMG, YMMV, FWIW, BRB, B&, LMAO, LOL and all derivations and concatenations.

Although advertised as a NT/IIS programmer job, must be willing to write code for any OS including: BSD, UNIX, Linux, iOS, Android, OSX, Solaris, Windows CE, Amiga DOS, and VMS VAX. Java (the code, not the drink) programming experience would be a plus (we have no idea why).

Must be willing to kiss your family goodbye and work your life off in a poorly lit office, basement or converted dog house.

Must be capable of producing at least 30,000 lines of code per week while ingesting coffee that tastes like river silt - and at the same time, replace faulty hard drives, power supplies, apcs, and other hardware that only breaks when you really need it or fails when you least expect.

Must be willing to take any salary we post (starting at $0.00, and like it) and grovel during the interview for an extra $0.01 per month, which will be promptly deducted to pay for the increasing health care costs. Health care benefits, of course, are not provided.

Must be ready to work immediately, with or without a computer or chair. In fact, we prefer BYOC&C - bring your own computer & chair.

Send us your resume ASAP in order for us to create the longest possible delay in response time. Contact nokidding@parkergunsare.fun

Jerry Andrews 05-05-2011 07:54 PM

I'm just glad no one has thrown me off this board! Jerry

Dean Romig 05-05-2011 08:44 PM

I would like to make a motion to the board that John's annual salary be doubled based on "We never knew he had such qualifications and did all that sh*t!!" :eek::bowdown::clap:

But then I came to the realization that 2 X $0 = $0.00 :rotf:

Sorry Buddy :cool:

Ken Descovich 05-05-2011 08:47 PM

I say we triple it then!:rotf:

John Dunkle 05-05-2011 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 41957)
I would like to make a motion to the board that John's annual salary be doubled based on "We never knew he had such qualifications and did all that sh*t!!" :eek::bowdown::clap:

But then I came to the realization that 2 X $0 = $0.00 :rotf:

Sorry Buddy :cool:

And...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Descovich (Post 41959)
I say we triple it then!:rotf:

Wow.. I'm honored.... In fact, both of you are now on my Christmas card list...!

But don't get too excited.. While I do have a list, I can't afford the cards nor postage..???
:bigbye:

John

Bobby Cash 05-05-2011 09:34 PM

Comes with the job...
 
Perhaps if you mentioned some of the perks of your position, you might attract more candidates.

From what I've read over the past year, whomever sits in your seat is able to command the possession of any Parker from any member for an unspecified amount of "borrow" time. :rotf:
As always, :bowdown:
Bobby

Wayne Owens 05-05-2011 10:55 PM

Within the last several weeks I have posted two threads " REVISIONS BY PARKER" and "SERIALIZATION BOOK DISCREPANCY'S" in which I relentlessly asked questions regarding a gun I was contemplating purchasing. I just wonder if my two threads had anything to do with this current thread being written since today I just noticed (stupid me) that I was listed on this website as a forum member and not a PCGA member. In reality I have been a PCGA member since the mid 90's ( member #122).
With that being said, everyone still answered my threads with the utmost generosity of their knowledge and concern that I wouldn't be taken by the seller of the gun. This is a great forum! THANK YOU ALL,

Wayne

Dean Romig 05-05-2011 11:31 PM

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Wayne and others - That's because this is who we are and this is how we conduct ourselves.

And this forum, without question, constitutes one of those "meetings and lectures where this information can be exchanged."


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John Dunkle 05-06-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Cash (Post 41970)
Perhaps if you mentioned some of the perks...... whomever sits in your seat is able to command the possession of any Parker from any member for an unspecified amount of "borrow" time. :rotf:...

Bobby,

That's no "perk" - it's a curse, I tell ya'...!! :)

Also, Wayne - Dean has that nailed exactly right. And I can assure you that the origins of this thread are entirely different. But, and more importantly...

Thank you for your on-going support of the PGCA!! Mary and I were chatting about your renewal last evening, and you are all set..!

My Best to you guys!

John


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