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CraigThompson 02-12-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 405318)
Todd, my go to clays gun is a Parker VHE live bird gun, 32", high vent rib and choked F/IC, no safety. It is by far my favorite target gun. I never shot pigeons with it yet but it did do me well on Helice. I also had a 32" Lefever LBG, Damascus, choked F/F, no safety. That gun turned targets into dust clouds. Sold it to a good friend and he enjoys it now.

That vent rib gun sounds like it might be right on time for Colombaire ! My vent gun is full and fuller yet but that’s just cuz I don’t wanna open it up . My friend Alonzo keeps telling me I need a 28-30” gun that’s light mod and full . And if I can ever have a Fabbri or Bosis it may very well be choked that way but it’s gun have a second set of 32” barrels choked tighter than hell in the left and tight as hell in the right .

Randy Davis 02-12-2024 05:42 PM

Pigeons
 
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Champion Live Bird shooters from 1960`s, photo from Harold`s Reno

Christopher Cefalu 02-12-2024 06:52 PM

The Harold's club is legendary here in Reno/Sparks. I'm a bit too young to have shot there but my father won an event at the Harold's Club in the early 70's during the Gold West Grand, a pair of elephant skin cowboy boots (that he still has). My dad tells great stories of watching the "old timers" shot live pigeons there. My dad introduced me to the clay target sports when I was 12 and I shot in the Gold West Grand for many years when it was held a Sage Hill clay sports in Reno until it closed. Both Harold's and Sage Hill are covered in houses and shopping malls now :(.

Phil Yearout 02-12-2024 09:36 PM

I have this pigeon decoy that was made and gifted to me by a chum; barn pigeon shooting is great fun although no money is involved (except for the occasional side bet of course! :)). Story goes that this little fooler was shot over by some pretty well-known gunners...

https://i.imgur.com/hoh2eTpl.jpg

Stan Hillis 02-12-2024 09:44 PM

I've shot flyers and I've shot barn pigeons and I've shot pigeons that responded to a crow call. But I killed more pigeons at one time with a broom stick than I ever did with a gun. That's another story for another time, I guess.

Destry L. Hoffard 02-12-2024 11:15 PM

The only mulligan I ever had was a stew at Boy Scout Camp. Is that what they were supposedly serving at Philly?

Randy Davis 02-13-2024 09:09 AM

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Milt Lindsley "Tournament" Shell... 3-3/4 Wood powder 1-1/4 #7`s Made by Eley Brothers for Henry Squires NY. from Interstate Tournament 11-30-1891.

Bill Murphy 02-13-2024 09:13 AM

Craig will attest that, at our club in West Virginia, ties are also worn. When a shooter finishes his five birds at the post, he passes the tie to the next shooter.

Garry L Gordon 02-13-2024 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by John Davis (Post 405315)
When Destry and I were at the Philadelphia Gun Club we shot under the nom de plumes Fred Kimble (me) and Captain A. H. Bogardus (Destry). When you toed the line, they would announce over a loud speaker, "Fred Kimble now at post." The following is an account of the match as published in Parker Pages.


"Philadelphia, Penn., January 10, 2009. Editor Parker Pages: - Epic struggles deserve chronicling, and the battles between Captain A. H. Bogardus and Mr. Fred Kimble are no exception. The story began some three years ago when these two shootists first met on the fields of glory in Sanford, North Carolina. In their initial contest, the good Captain was victorious over a very green Kimble by only a very narrow margin. Their second meeting occurred once again in the spring and on southern grounds. And once again Captain Bogardus proved to be the champion wing shot he claimed to be. The third meeting was a different story, as Kimble managed to best Bogardus by a single clay target after two grueling days toeing the line.

Now a fourth match has taken place. But this time north of the Mason-Dixon line, and with live pigeons. The contest occurred on January 10th last and the purse was $100 and an engraved, sterling silver pocket watch. The match was hosted by the old and venerable Philadelphia Gun Club of that Quaker City and our brothers in arms were the guests of the ever genial Mr. Kaas. The day proved cold and snowy, and the sky gray and heavy.

Both of our heroes were sporting Parker shotguns. Bogardus was shooting a weighty DHE with 32 inch tubes choked improved cylinder and fuller, while Kimble shot his BH, sporting thirty inch barrels choked modified and full. Stationed at the thirty-one yard mark, each pigeon popper faced five traps which overlooked the great Delaware River. This was originally slated as a thirty bird race but was cut to twenty-seven when the pigeons ran short. Kimble led off the match and managed to go five straight before losing his sixth bird, dead, but out of bounds, followed shortly thereafter with a clean miss on number nine. Bogardus placed himself at an immediate disadvantage when he missed his first and third birds, but in true champion form the Captain proceeded to kill his next seventeen straight before missing his twenty-first feathered target. Kimble’s next misses came on birds twenty-two and twenty-three, both being screamers straight out of the box. All was even after Bogardus tripped on his twenty-fourth bird, each man being down four. And even it would stay until the final bird. Kimble finished his round with a clean kill on twenty-seven. It was now Bogardus’ turn at the line. A dead bird would leave the match at a tie; a miss would send Kimble home with the watch and the money. The good Captain called, “Trapper! Ready?” The trapper replied, “Ready.” “Pull,” shouted Bogardus and the bird sprung from the trap. The Captain fired twice and as the smoke cleared the unfortunate pigeon fell dead but out of bounds. Such is life in this game we call pigeon shooting. But there’s always next time, my good Captain. Gaucho"

That Gaucho can tell a tale. I thought I was there…and back when.

Thanks!

todd allen 02-13-2024 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Garry L Gordon (Post 405366)
That Gaucho can tell a tale. I thought I was there…and back when.

Thanks!

Sounds kinda like last Sunday's Superbowl!

Destry L. Hoffard 02-13-2024 08:03 PM

It's fun to read that again, it has been ages.

I refer to this series of shoots as the times I beat the Georgia State Champion three out of five matches as we shot pigeons again the next year and I emerged victorious.

DLH aka Bogardus

John Davis 02-13-2024 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Destry L. Hoffard (Post 405405)
It's fun to read that again, it has been ages.

I refer to this series of shoots as the times I beat the Georgia State Champion three out of five matches as we shot pigeons again the next year and I emerged victorious.

DLH aka Bogardus

I remain humbled.:bowdown:

Destry L. Hoffard 02-13-2024 08:42 PM

You're too good for me these days, I ain't never shootin' you for money ever again. Hah!

The other day I missed my first four out of five! It was pituful, I shoulda been embarrased, but I was having too much fun.

DLH

Destry L. Hoffard 02-13-2024 08:47 PM

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Proof! Me with the silver watch!

After John won the Georgia State I relinquished the watch to him as he had far exceeded any skill I ever had. I think I was prouder of him and his title than he was.

todd allen 02-13-2024 09:02 PM

That's a beautiful ring! Love the background.

Stan Hoover 02-13-2024 09:38 PM

Great picture Destry,

I wish I could say that I have shot at this club!

Stan Hillis 02-13-2024 10:43 PM

I have a copy of an old article written back in the late 70's, I think, where the great pigeon shooter Billy Perdue was interviewed and it was published. I haven't read it in a while but can remember a few choice mentions.

He favored a S X S in a time when they were "out of favor" for flyer matches, and stated his reason for shooting one. He said that flyer shooting is a game of elevation, mostly, and that the first shot at the bird, as it is rising from the trap, is managed more easily with a S X S because the barrels are in clearer view in the out-of-focus field of vision.

There was one particular S X S, that he ordered custom made for himself, with which he had great issues with the regulation of the barrels. He eventually rid himself of it, and a friend of mine owns it. It still has stickers all over the stock from shoots in the USA and abroad. He can't shoot it worth a darn, and I've never had the heart to tell him what is wrong with it. Hope he's not reading this.

My favorite quote of Billy's is what he said when asked how he had been so fortunate as to be able to shoot flyers around the globe for so many years. This is not a direct quote, but close ........ said he: "I was born into money and I never did anything to mess that up".

John Davis 02-14-2024 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Destry L. Hoffard (Post 405408)
Proof! Me with the silver watch!

After John won the Georgia State I relinquished the watch to him as he had far exceeded any skill I ever had. I think I was prouder of him and his title than he was.

Those were the best of times.

Reggie Bishop 02-14-2024 07:28 AM

Very enjoyable thread! Nice shooting attire as well Destry! Is that your 34" gun in the photo?

Ed Blake 02-14-2024 07:58 AM

Thanks for posting. Those Bogardus/Kimble matches were fun. How is our friend Don Kass? He hasn’t posted for years.

John Dallas 02-14-2024 11:13 AM

My dad shot columbaire birds in Mexico when Remington held a board meeting there. The bird boys were instructed to release the birds easily, because the board members where not good shooters. My dad killed the first several birds (lucky!) and the bird boy was angry - They all want to throw "no Hitters". My dad's birds got a lot more difficult

Stan Hillis 02-14-2024 03:56 PM

I would love to try Columbaire.

There's a great story about shooting them in Bob Brister's wonderful old book "Moss, Mallards and Mules".

CraigThompson 02-14-2024 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan Hillis (Post 405448)
I would love to try Columbaire.

There's a great story about shooting them in Bob Brister's wonderful old book "Moss, Mallards and Mules".

I do better at Colombaire than I do at boxbirds ! I read that same story over forty years ago . That’s what got me started on wanting to go in the ring .


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