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Andrew Sacco 01-07-2022 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Koneski (Post 352368)
If those shells are 1 oz and 1200 FPS they are fine for vintage guns.

Not sure what they are Mike. Some of these ding dongs then turn around and sell them for $50 on GB and there are those who pay it. You eat what you kill.

johnwall 01-07-2022 05:28 PM

Where can I find 12 Gauge 2.5 ammo for my 1906 parker?

Mike Koneski 01-07-2022 06:27 PM

Right now you have to make them yourself.

Mills Morrison 01-07-2022 07:17 PM

Shooting less

Stan Hillis 01-07-2022 07:27 PM

My home club will sell 5 boxes of shells to shoot a round of 100. I take advantage of that each time, which gains me a few shells each round. I buy them from my club at $8.50/box. That said, I have curtailed some of my sporting clays shooting. I'm still shooting just enough to hopefully "keep my hand in" and be competitive when I shoot some competitive events this spring.

I have plenty of shells for hunting, for a couple/three years, and can load more if needed with supplies on hand. To be quite honest, the shortage hasn't affected my shooting as much as the price increases because of the shortage has. When I drive 80 miles round trip to shoot a round of sporting (at $.54/mile), shoot four boxes at $8.50/box, and pay $25 for the round, I've dunked $102. That gives me pause, to say the least.

Mark Britton 01-07-2022 07:44 PM

Ammo is like and old fellow I knew use to say about money. You can have it or spend it but you can't do both !

Russell E. Cleary 01-07-2022 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mills Morrison (Post 352387)
Shooting less

I echo Mill's succinct post.

And will add that I am less likely to buy a vintage gun.

Tom Pellegrini 01-08-2022 10:09 PM

The prices I have seen in this thread you guys are lucky. I just visited two Wal Marts in the Myrtle Beach area. Any Remington shells whether 12 or 20 Ga, $17.49 per box. Winchester target loads $14.79 per box. Both stores displayed a sign "three boxes per customer". Be thankful for the prices you have in your area.

Matt Buckley 01-09-2022 07:51 AM

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I'm still reloading. I don't pay to much attention to the price of supplies because it's a hobby for me and I don't shoot thousands of rounds a year like some. Here are my 8 year old daughter Catherine and my 2 year old son Joseph at the reloading bench with me yesterday having some fun. All three of my kids get excited when they get to help reload. I guess I'll keep enjoying it with my kids and not worry if my Cheddite primers go up a few bucks.

Garry L Gordon 01-09-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Buckley (Post 352509)
I'm still reloading. I don't pay to much attention to the price of supplies because it's a hobby for me and I don't shoot thousands of rounds a year like some. Here are my 8 year old daughter Catherine and my 2 year old son Joseph at the reloading bench with me yesterday having some fun. All three of my kids get excited when they get to help reload. I guess I'll keep enjoying it with my kids and not worry if my Cheddite primers go up a few bucks.

Now that looks like fun. I always thought reloading was boring, but with some "helpers" like those...:bowdown:

Frank Srebro 01-09-2022 08:21 AM

I shoot 100 sporting clays once or usually twice a week along with a regular gang of 8. Five of the 8 are mainly shooting reloads and the other 3 are finding shells here and there at prevailing prices. Granted, the majority regularly shoot modern guns but when out occasionally with a vintage SxS the reloaders adjust to somewhat lower payloads and speed, and thus lesser recoil. Most have good inventories of components stockpiled over the past year or so (Aesop's fable ant analogy). I and others have gone from 1-ounce to 7/8 ounce loads for practice/fun 12g shooting and as most here know that stretches a bag of shot from 400 to about 455 loads. Net, the shortages haven't affected shooting by the gang or me all that much.

Otherwise, at a certain large sporting club the public activity through the summer and fall seems to have been about on par. But that’s hard to evaluate now that winter has set in and with the frequent funky weather. Fair weekend days will bring out plenty of shooters albeit most with complaints about shell pricing, but even a hint of drizzle or snow flakes keeps many of the casual that are locally called "red hatters" from coming out. They seem to be even more weather sensitive of late. For sure, conditions can certainly be uncomfortable at times but as friend Fred says, better to be shooting than in other places or situations he relates. All these are just observations; of course I don't have the objective data on shooter numbers and trends hereabouts.

Daryl Corona 01-09-2022 08:33 AM

My experience mirrors Franks in that I shoot 100-250/week using my own reloads which I have trimmed down to 3/4 for all gauges. That works out to 533 loads /25lb of shot. The only factor keeping me from shooting is snow/ice on the ground. I've learned my lesson that you can be the most careful person in the world and then boom. Our group consists of anywhere from 8-12 shooters on any given day and out of that total only 4 of us reload. The others have a good supply of factory loads on hand.

Frank Srebro 01-09-2022 09:08 AM

Daryl's comment on ice reminds me that all the guys use "ice trekkers" or similar stretchy or strap-on traction aids for footware whenever winter conditions warrant.

Daryl Corona 01-09-2022 09:10 AM

I now have my own set of Korkers/Trekkers.

Tom Pellegrini 01-09-2022 01:26 PM

Just went to Bass Pro Shops in Myrtle Beach. I could have bought all the Herters and Winchester 12 Ga flats that I wanted at $194.99 per flat. Also they were all 1550 fps. I did find the only 4 boxes of Remington target loads. I purchased them at $14. 79 per box. The only reason I purchased them at that outlandish price was they were STS hulls and I can reload them. Otherwise they would have stayed on the shelf. There was no shot or any kind of powder on the shelves. When I asked the "gentleman" behind the counter about the powder situation he just chuckled and shook his head. Oh well back to endless searching on the internet.

Randy G Roberts 01-09-2022 02:12 PM

Tom that makes me feel somewhat better about the $95 per flat I just paid for 1 oz Federal 1180's. Ugghhhh.

Kevin McCormack 01-09-2022 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Pellegrini (Post 352558)
Just went to Bass Pro Shops in Myrtle Beach. I could have bought all the Herters and Winchester 12 Ga flats that I wanted at $194.99 per flat. Also they were all 1550 fps. I did find the only 4 boxes of Remington target loads. I purchased them at $14. 79 per box. The only reason I purchased them at that outlandish price was they were STS hulls and I can reload them. Otherwise they would have stayed on the shelf. There was no shot or any kind of powder on the shelves. When I asked the "gentleman" behind the counter about the powder situation he just chuckled and shook his head. Oh well back to endless searching on the internet.

WOW! Those prices are the highest I've heard yet for Cabela's/Bass Pro stock!! Are you sure you weren't looking at steel shot? The prices and velocity quoted sound up in that realm. The $14.97 for the STS loads sounds about par by comparison just about all over. I've seen nothing there nor at any WalMart in the NoVa / DC metro area stores in any form of 12 ga. target ammo at any price. Last I purchased was Christmas week at the Gainesville VA Cabela's for $84.99 per flat + tax = net $90 and change.

John Davis 01-09-2022 05:00 PM

The current shortage hasn't really affected how much I shoot but it has affected what ammo I burn. I shoot 5000+ registered trap targets a year. Double that for practice targets. Singles, handicap and doubles trap. Prior to the shortage I shot reloads for practice and Remington STS or Federal Papers for singles and doubles registered birds and RST Trap loads for registered handicap. I'm now out of reloading components and can't find the premium shells. So I shoot whatever I can get. Presently I'm sitting on about 20 flats of RIO's and a couple of flats of Federal Top Guns for Handicap. Buy what I can from Walmart when they have it. My Parker SBT's can pretty much digest anything within reason off the shelf and my Trojan isn't shy either.

Bill Murphy 01-09-2022 06:51 PM

Remember that the first decades of your Parker trap gun's life were spent digesting the standard trap load of 1 1/4 ounces of shot at more than 1200 fps. OUCH.

Harold Lee Pickens 01-09-2022 07:03 PM

Went to the Washington, Pa gun show today. After yesterdays 5 degree morning, it was pouring down on frozen ground this morning, so opted out of muzzle loader deer. As expected, most powder was around $50/ 1 lb can, and the only shotgun primers I found were Fiocchi at $100/ thousand. A guy was asking $30/ box for Federal 28 ga 3/4 oz loads--or 7 boxes for $150 if I took em all. Most cases of 12 ga target loads were $150/case, and single boxes were $20-25 for most gauges. Would like to have found a Mec600 jr in 28 ga. Few Parkers, there was a decent PH 12 Twist barrels, but I wasnt interested.
Glad I didnt need to pay the price---yet.

CraigThompson 01-09-2022 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 352573)
Remember that the first decades of your Parker trap gun's life were spent digesting the standard trap load of 1 1/4 ounces of shot at more than 1200 fps. OUCH.

Pigeon loads :whistle:

CraigThompson 01-09-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens (Post 352574)
Went to the Washington, Pa gun show today. After yesterdays 5 degree morning, it was pouring down on frozen ground this morning, so opted out of muzzle loader deer. As expected, most powder was around $50/ 1 lb can, and the only shotgun primers I found were Fiocchi at $100/ thousand. A guy was asking $30/ box for Federal 28 ga 3/4 oz loads--or 7 boxes for $150 if I took em all. Most cases of 12 ga target loads were $150/case, and single boxes were $20-25 for most gauges. Would like to have found a Mec600 jr in 28 ga. Few Parkers, there was a decent PH 12 Twist barrels, but I wasnt interested.
Glad I didnt need to pay the price---yet.

I was in Clark Brothers Gunshop close to Warrenton VA back before Xmas and they had four pounds of Unique on the shelf and I was all prepared to swoop down and grab it all then I saw the price $49.99 each . Damn stuffs still there far as I know .

Harold Lee Pickens 01-14-2022 11:50 AM

Walmart today had 10 boxes of Win 1 1/8 oz loads at $8.43/ box, Federal 1 oz loads were $9.43.
Didn't think that was too bad.

CraigThompson 01-14-2022 12:08 PM

The new age of reloading !

VERSATILITY is the key word :rotf:

Harold Lee Pickens 01-14-2022 01:28 PM

I would bought them all, not for me but for my friends, but don't know who needs them.

Andrew Sacco 01-14-2022 02:07 PM

A friend of mine just received his pallet of Fiocchi he ordered over a year and a half ago. He was quoted $49 per flat then. When they called to say it was shipping they charged him $79 a flat. He asked but sure didn't complain and coughed up his credit card. Those days are GONE.


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