I load one ounce loads at 1200 fps for my 16 yard shooting. In my opinion, that's all you need at 16 yards. I save the one and one eighth ounce loads for handicap. It works for me.

I was merely passing along information, I never said I shot the or bought them :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf: I haven't found those shells or those prices anywhere, but then again north of the PA border things are even worse.

As most here know 16-gauge shells are particularly difficult to buy nowadays. Yesterday a GB advert for 4 boxes of Remington Game Loads, those with the black-colored hulls, had multiple bidders and sold for $84. plus $15. shipping. That's almost $25. per box of 25 shells.

IMO: That's absolute insanity to pay those type of prices!! We're being our own worse enemies by doing so!

I got two flats of the Falcon Lites 7/8oz and I think they were $17 each box. So in that light I got a bargain :rolleyes:

3 weeks ago, I got 2 flats of Fiocci's for $6/box, no tax

Where did you find that deal John?




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ROLL TIDE, ROLL!!! RAMMER JAMMER YELLOW HAMMER!!

Well folks according to the most recent American Rifleman we are the cause of the ammo shortage. Hornaday, Fiochi, and Sierra said that there work forces are all working overtime and Hornaday commented that there workforce was exhausted. Browning and Winchester both replied that demand was extremely high. An individual rifleman was interviewed and commented that he had purchased a case for each of his 12 rifles. That set him back $3200. My only question is that those among who hoard ammo also hoard toilet paper?

Dean - A private deal from a friend who started a gun club, sold it, but still retains access to their stock. Passed to thru to me with basically no markup.. Wish I'd bought more, but it's not fair for me to hoard his stock, since he's doing me a favor.

BTW, this guy is 85 years old, and shot a 93 at Sporting Clays last week with a 28 gauge. I want to be like him when I grow up

Was in a small local shop yesterday to get some wads. I noticed they had Federal Top Gun, and Estate shells at $6.95 a box with a 4 box limit. Another small local shop had CCI 209 primers at $70/1000. That is crazy.

Here is an example of an EXTREME attempt to gouge.
https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101608155
Bob Jurewicz

I just saw that Federal has already started production of the Remington ammo. We shall see how this shakes down in the coming months.

$398 for a flat of the cheap Federal shells. That guy needs a serious attitude adjustment.

I tried calling about getting some RST low pressure Ammo here in CA. Not available or any target loads either. It’s very frustrating.

As has been noted regarding parachutes... If one needs ammo and doesn't have it, he may not need it again. TP somewhat less urgently...

And... No one is FORCING anyone to buy overpriced ammo.

Ammo
 

A fellow skeet shooter was on the wait list a local sports shop in Lehigh Co. PA. He was able to purchase a flat of Federal Top Gun this week for $89 plus tax. Limit of 1 flat per customer.

He left after shooting 2 rounds. Needs to make his supply last a while.

Ammo/Beer Run
 

Today was a very profitable/expensive day. Tennis got cancelled this morning, so made a beer run across state lines to Capelli's beer distributor in Washington, Pa--much better prices than here in Wheeling, so WTH, picked up 4 cases of Yuengling. Then on to a little business that sells reloading supplies on the side: picked up a couple thousand primers at $30/thousand, a few lbs of 20/28 powder and more shot. Price gouging has not hit here. Then cross country to see Brett Hoops, who had picked up a couple bags of shot for me a month ago. We ogled, weighed, and discussed our Parkers and future wants and needs, while his bird dogs listened intently( or maybe they were bored).
On the way home, got a call from my friend Mike who had just picked up a skid of dog food, several of us feed. So met him and took 6 bags. So I'm good for a while--plenty of shot, primers, and powder--plenty of beer and 4 months worth of dog food.

Harold, what brand of primers did you get for $30. That is about what they should cost.

I got Cheddites, the Win 209's were $35--I have used cheddites before and never had any problem.

Used!! I came sell you thousands for $10/1000!!

As long as they are just once fired, Mike.

They will be in the mail tomorrow. Bulk shipment, just in a big bag. :rotf::rotf:

Jealous. Except for the Yeungling 🤢

Just got notification from Midway USA that Nosler Accubonds in 358 caliber were in. i got a box of 200 and 225 grain. I can use them in a M70 358 FWT and a #1 35 Whelan, There expensive with shipping and tax $150.:shock: I wont be punching much paper with them.

The house votes next week on a gun control bill, not sure if it's HR127 or not. Will look later.

Richie, I’ll look tomorrow. I may have some .358 bullets I can trade. I’ll let you know. 😁

Here's the latest. Safe link:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/117/hr127

Oh boy...

HR127 was introduced by the “useful idiot” Shiela Jackson-Lee. She’s so far left she makes Occasional-Cortex look conservative. The bill has NO sponsors. These leftists on the fed and state level introduce anti-freedom bills every year knowing they will not pass. They can then tell their “constituents” that they tried. That doesn’t mean we sit back and watch. EVERYONE needs to be vigilant and tell their state and federal congresscritters to oppose these bills. Remember, don’t believe what comes out of their mouths, watch their actions.

Well, here's some MORE action from our congressional geniuses. Background checks for PRIVATE sales. All in an effort to advance public safety of course...

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/dem...02/id/1012133/

that's been on the wish list for years

aka Universal Background Checks

already the rule in NY according to the unSafe Act

Chucky Schemer has been trying for years to pass the “Universal Background Check”. They need that bill to establish a central registry of firearms/owners. Next step is confiscations. DOJ even tells them it will not prevent violent crime. They don’t care about reducing crime, the left wants to disarm and control us all. They want subjects, not citizens.

I just checked out Rstshells today. About 90% out of stock

You need to order what is IN stock. That's the trick!! :):rotf:

Richie, I have 16@Sierra 200g RN, 15@Remington 200g Pointed Specials and 59@ Speer 180g Flat SP. Those are bullets, not boxes!

I have bought quite a few off the web. When i get home in a week or so I'll see what I have. A 180 is a light bullet in 358.

Light and fast. Speed thrills!!:whistle:

The ammo shelves at the local Wally World yesterday...

https://i.imgur.com/vRe8Cikl.jpg

On a chance, I stopped by a local range yesterday that has a large pro shop. Last time I was there, nada. Yesterday it was ammo heaven! Prices weren’t great but they were reasonable. Flats of shells stacked high. Full shelves of rifle and pistol ammo. It felt so 2019. They even had 6.5 Creedmor, thank God. It’s getting better. Hang in there and keep our purchases modest so the system can catch up and prices float down.