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Louis Rotelli 09-28-2020 08:13 AM

I have several Win. model 12s all skeet, trap or some rare combo like a pair of I/C Vent rib guns that are 2 s/n apart one in 12 the other in 20. I also have model 42's in skeet
and a trap 2 bbl set in both 30 and 32" with solid rib. I shoot all my competitions with a model 12.

Craig Larter 09-28-2020 04:18 PM

Many interesting responses, thanks everyone for giving us an insight into your non Parker interests. Sometimes I turn off to non sxs's but the other designs are all part of our rich American firearms history. I must admit my love of the Winchester model 12 Duck and Remington model 11 grade E and F.

Joseph Sheerin 09-28-2020 04:48 PM

I have a Nice model 12 12ga with solid rib I like a lot, killed my first duck with a model 1987 12ga.... But, never liked the 97's as much as the 12's.....

But have to admit, that no matter how much I like my model 12, not nearly as much as the SxS's I own.....

Daryl Corona 09-28-2020 04:50 PM

Along with the guns mentioned I have to admit to a fondness for pre-war through early 70's Browning Superpose shotguns.

Craig Larter 09-28-2020 05:00 PM

Daryl I remember as a kid growing up in the 60's and dreaming if only someday I could own and hunt with a Browning Superposed I would be in tall cover! Then I was introduced to hunting by my Uncle Bill, an AH Fox man. :)

CraigThompson 09-28-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 312988)
Along with the guns mentioned I have to admit to a fondness for pre-war through early 70's Browning Superpose shotguns.

All those in my accumulation are in the 1950-1970 range . But let’s not forget the Remington Model 32 O/U as well as the Krieghoff versions .

Daryl Corona 09-28-2020 05:51 PM

Same here Craig. I remember answering an ad in, I think Field & Stream, for the "newest Browning catalog, free". I drooled over the shotguns especially the Double auto and the colored receivers. I finally bought one of the .22 LR's just a few years ago and added it to the superpose scatterguns in the safe.

I still have the catalog as it was just so well done. I'll have to go dig it out to relive my misspent yute. (My apologies to Joe Pesci)

CraigThompson 09-29-2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 312997)
Same here Craig. I remember answering an ad in, I think Field & Stream, for the "newest Browning catalog, free". I drooled over the shotguns especially the Double auto and the colored receivers. I finally bought one of the .22 LR's just a few years ago and added it to the superpose scatterguns in the safe.

I still have the catalog as it was just so well done. I'll have to go dig it out to relive my misspent yute. (My apologies to Joe Pesci)

If you want some Double Auto's in the pretty anodized colors I can probably turn you on to several of them :whistle:

A guy down here that called himself a Browning collector had about 50 of the double auto's of which we've sold a few for him . He has a NIB Superposed Midas Broadway I tried and tried to get but he wouldn't put a price on it :banghead:

Bobby Cash 09-30-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 312988)
Along with the guns mentioned I have to admit to a fondness for pre-war through early 70's Browning Superpose shotguns.

Here's a mid-60's Grade 1 .410, 28" F/M. Looks to be the Grade 1 woodpile lottery winner.

https://i.imgur.com/EoU8kCR.png

Dave Noreen 09-30-2020 04:01 PM

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Wow!! That certainly beats the wood on any of my Grade 1s!! A 1950 20-gauge --

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Robert Brooks 09-30-2020 06:05 PM

I have six model 37s one is a 16 gauge trap grade and also have a 16 gauge skeet grade. Bobby

Daryl Corona 09-30-2020 08:01 PM

Wow Bobby that is a stunner.
Dave, can't see the wood but it's a 20. Nuff said.

CraigThompson 09-30-2020 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Cash (Post 313137)
Here's a mid-60's Grade 1 .410, 28" F/M. Looks to be the Grade 1 woodpile lottery winner.

https://i.imgur.com/EoU8kCR.png

I’ve got Superposed Grade 1 skeets in all four gauges and none have wood that nice .

Stan Hillis 10-10-2020 08:04 AM

I have to admit, not growing up shooting pumps they are not that attractive to me. I appreciate them, just not my cup of tea. That said, I have bought a couple in the last few years because of their unusual nature.

This is my M30 20 ga. Montgomery Ward/Browning, so called because it was designed by J. Browning and sold to J. Stevens Arms Co. when Winchester wouldn't pay what he felt the rights to production were worth. Stevens produced the 20 ga. as the Model 520. Same gun, but kinda cool with the "Westernfield/Browning" on the side. This particular one has a 28" barrel, tightly choked. It is a true take-down gun. All it takes to do so is to unscrew the magazine tube with your fingers, move the forend slide completely to the front, and pull down on the barrel/magazine tube ass'y. As you can see, it is mated very rigidly to the receiver when in place. Just an ingenious design. It's a man-sized pump 20 which weighs in at 6 lbs. 5 oz. empty, and carries nicely.

I can't seem to find the photos of it, but here's a link to some on the Fox site:

http://forum.foxcollectors.com/viewt...hp?f=46&t=8470

Sorry for the inconvenience, SRH

charlie cleveland 10-10-2020 12:35 PM

I have a wards 20 ga just like the 20 humpback shown here its a take down model also...neat little pump guns....charlie

Mills Morrison 10-11-2020 09:00 AM

Going on a dove hunt today and might take a non-sxs. Harry wants to shoot my Auto-5

charlie cleveland 10-11-2020 02:20 PM

hope ya ll have a good hunt....charlie

Mills Morrison 10-11-2020 06:02 PM

No birds and we heard one gun shot. Left the field at 4 and came home. Still a great time with my sons. Sherwood found a mud puddle near us and laid down in it.

Mills Morrison 10-11-2020 06:21 PM

Beretta Silver Pigeons are the classic guns of tomorrow. Harry wound up taking his today and I took a Parker.

Brian Dudley 10-31-2020 11:57 AM

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Last week, Scott and I hunted with Parkers, this morning we left the doubles at home and and brought put the Model 11 autos.
Mine a B grade 12g with 28” barrels and mod choke. Scotts is a later 20g sportsman.
I had not shot mine at live targets before and Scott had not shot his at all previously.
7 birds between the two of us.
Pilot and Havoc did a great job flushing them out.

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Dave Noreen 10-31-2020 12:52 PM

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Likewise I normally hunt with doubles, but one day back in 2006, I took my 16-gauge Sportsman out and as luck would have it I got the perfect opportunity and got the only triple of my life.

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Got to admit that earlier that day I missed the first rooster we got up three shots.

Scott Janowski 10-31-2020 07:09 PM

I did the same thing with the first rooster I shot today! Missed all three shots on a nice rooster going away. First time I ever shot the gun!
Got him on the follow up.

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 04:51 AM

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Harry Neil 11-01-2020 05:02 AM

Sorry....obv haven’t got the edit procedure down here.

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 05:11 AM

Like the SxS’s, but have to admit to going thru “spells” when only a Model 12 16gauge will do....and they balance as well as what many term best. Also fond of an Ithaca 37 28 Gauge...an easy carry and quick pointer.

Favorite pic of Toby and the 37....Toby was a poser and seemed to know when he was on stage....

https://live.staticflickr.com/1770/4...da2cd9f9_z.jpg

A sleeper and not pretty, but extremely effective.... Model 59 Winchester...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...4c01c1c8_z.jpg


Model 12....16gauge...Bud and I got into camp late and no time to compose a good pic...



https://live.staticflickr.com/7850/4...11593528_z.jpg

Stan Hillis 11-01-2020 07:11 AM

Six dead grouse in one "pile" is a good pic, regardless. Wow!

SRH

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 08:17 AM

Bud shot 2 of them....with a SxS that most don’t see...Renato Gamba 20 gauge...a really well built and balanced shotgun.

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 08:28 AM

Pic of him and the Gamba....

https://live.staticflickr.com/1866/4...882e424d_z.jpg

Mike McKinney 11-01-2020 09:21 AM

Harry,
That first photo is a great, classic, beautiful picture, as good as I’ve ever seen!

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 09:33 AM

Thank you, but “The Tob” made the pic....”What me worry?” Fit him to a T.

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 10:06 AM

Ithaca 37 28ga...

I could hear the fight going on in the SD background corn....Merlot finally came out on top, but it may have been a cage fight....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bae0b9b4_z.jpg

The other side....

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d1593057_z.jpg

James L. Martin 11-01-2020 10:35 AM

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Goose and a 3" model 12.

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 10:44 AM

Model 12's are flat out cool....and they don't need a bunch of chickens and scratchings to be so....

Harry Neil 11-01-2020 11:18 AM

Then again....without the Dogs, hunting shotguns are little more than steel and wood thrown together...A London best worth little more than a Sears special....

Frank Srebro 11-01-2020 04:19 PM

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Two 1950's Model 12's that strutted their stuff on sporting courses over the past few days. Both are Simmons VR guns. Lower gun is a new to me 20-gauge/28" with Mod choke; tried her out today at Rock Mountain and it seems I couldn't miss. Upper Winny is a 12-gauge/32" with Full choke, one of three pump guns in our squad of five shooters at the Charity shoot at Lehigh SC on Friday. Our 444 ex 500 was high score of 21 squads and this Model 12 placed 4th of 105 shooters. Love to see the raised eyebrows and looks of shooters with expensive competition o/u and gas guns. :whistle:

Bill Murphy 11-01-2020 05:30 PM

I have never felt handicapped when shooting my Model 12s. A couple of decades ago, I ran 100 in our 20 gauge event at the Maryland State NSSA shoot with an 870 that I still own. I lost the championship because I switched to my K-32 for the shootoff. I have a large covey of collector Model 12s but normally go to the well worn examples when shooting competition. In 1984, I decided to put away the pump guns for NSSA competition and switched to the tubed 3200. My last shoot with my 12 gauge milled rib Model 12 was a 99X100. It was more than a couple of shoots before I shot a 99 with my 3200. I was "Mister 99" with my Model 12 20 gauge at that time, so I sold it to my friend Mel Swerdloff who shot 100X100 low gun while test firing that 20 before writing the check. I wish I had that great gun back.

Daryl Corona 11-01-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Srebro (Post 315231)
Two 1950's Model 12's that strutted their stuff on sporting courses over the past few days. Both are Simmons VR guns. Lower gun is a new to me 20-gauge/28" with Mod choke; tried her out today at Rock Mountain and it seems I couldn't miss. Upper Winny is a 12-gauge/32" with Full choke, one of three pump guns in our squad of five shooters at the Charity shoot at Lehigh SC on Friday. Ours was high score of 21 squads with 444/500 and that Model 12 placed 4th of 105 shooters. Love to see the raised eyebrows and looks of shooters with expensive competition o/u and gas guns. :whistle:

Well done Frank. Once again we all know it's not the arrow, although that arrow is a classic.:bowdown:

Frank Srebro 11-02-2020 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 315243)
Well done Frank. Once again we all know it's not the arrow, although that arrow is a classic.:bowdown:

Thanks Daryl. Most of us have heard that dictum many times and while largely true its corollary is that no well practiced Indian can shoot well with a crooked arrow or while using a bow that's intimidating or s/he has little confidence in. :nono:

Regarding vintage repeating shotguns, to my thinking there's nothing more reliable, naturally pointing and sexy looking than a Model 12 with a Simmons vent rib. 70+ years and counting for Simmons doing ribs.

Larry Stauch 11-05-2020 05:06 PM

The Old Model 12s
 
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The little 20 is a honey. I like the Auto-5s too and the engraved Model 11s.
Remington could really doll a gun up with fantastic engraving when they wanted to.
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Mike Franzen 11-05-2020 06:04 PM

The best gun I ever shot was a black diamond model 1912. Straight stock and 30” bbl fit me like it was a part of my body. Sadly I sold that gun and list it was one of my biggest regrets. I like the M42’s with the corn cob forends. I collected 410 and 22 single shots for awhile but have sold most of them. Parker’s get the nod exclusively today although a M12 like Franks 20 gauge would be impossible to resist.


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