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Milton C Starr 07-09-2019 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 277124)
I have seen #5 frame hammer guns, but they were very early and very scarce. If a Parker is ordered at a certain weight, the work room would determine what frame is used. Sometimes, a smaller frame is selected and the weight is determined by the barrel weight. Sometimes, a heavier frame is selected and the selected weight is finished by using lighter barrels or stock. An example is the 1/2 frame. They are finished up at weights from 6 1/4 pounds to 8 1/4 pounds.

With #3 seeing to be the most popular frame used for 10s does anyone know what the heaviest #3 that was ordered?

10 bore is my favorite but I have always wanted a 10lb 16ga haha .

Jim DiSpagno 07-09-2019 08:38 PM

Call and ask them. I’m sure they’ll accommodate you

Bruce Day 07-09-2019 08:43 PM

I have a CH 10/26 on a 2 frame. Cyl choke and original. I posted photos here before and have taken it pheasant hunting in SoDak. It’s still not lightweight at just under 8 lbs.

The cost of a PGCA annual membership is $40, less than a tank of gas.

Craig Larter 07-09-2019 08:43 PM

Can't answer your question but I have a #3 frame 10ga that letters at 10lbs, 10oz.

Bill Murphy 07-09-2019 09:41 PM

My #3 frame 28 inch 16 is well into the nines, but not quite ten pounds.

CraigThompson 07-09-2019 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 277151)
I have a CH 10/26 on a 2 frame. Cyl choke and original. I posted photos here before and have taken it pheasant hunting in SoDak. It’s still not lightweight at just under 8 lbs.

The cost of a PGCA annual membership is $40, less than a tank of gas.

I’ve got the EH 2 frame 28” factory that’s cyl and lite mod . That things nice on the skeet field . I hope some day to run up on one of the factory EH 26” I’m sure they’ve gotta be on a 2 frame and most likely open as well , to say nothing of one of the very few EH factory 24” .

CraigThompson 07-09-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton C Starr (Post 277149)
With #3 seeing to be the most popular frame used for 10s does anyone know what the heaviest #3 that was ordered?

10 bore is my favorite but I have always wanted a 10lb 16ga haha .

A fellow on here that lives in SC/GA has a 32” EH on. 3 frame I think it’s as heavy or heavier then my EH 34” 3 frame . I had tried to buy the gun he has before he got it and finally saw it at the 2018 Southern . That guns a right smart horse I’d say over 10 pounds .

Milton C Starr 07-09-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 277163)
A fellow on here that lives in SC/GA has a 32” EH on. 3 frame I think it’s as heavy or heavier then my EH 34” 3 frame . I had tried to buy the gun he has before he got it and finally saw it at the 2018 Southern . That guns a right smart horse I’d say over 10 pounds .

I've had two 10 hammer guns both 32" one a 9lb and one a 10lb . You could definitely feel the weight in the 10lb guns barrels . With RST loads though I couldn't tell a recoil difference between the two . Wish I could have remember that hammerless 10 ga parkers that was sold locally it had 36" barrels !

Milton C Starr 07-09-2019 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 277151)
I have a CH 10/26 on a 2 frame. Cyl choke and original. I posted photos here before and have taken it pheasant hunting in SoDak. It’s still not lightweight at just under 8 lbs.

The cost of a PGCA annual membership is $40, less than a tank of gas.

Oh I'm planning on it , there's a parker I plan on ordering a letter for that I am curious about .

Milton C Starr 07-09-2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 277160)
My #3 frame 28 inch 16 is well into the nines, but not quite ten pounds.

I'm in prime quail country , south georgia if you Google pine hill plantation that's what the land looks like here . 16 gauge ammo is not scarce here . I used to have a 1957' Ithaca 37 featherweight before they added the trigger disconnect . To me that thing rocked me harder than my 10 gauge magnums .

charlie cleveland 07-09-2019 11:05 PM

bills 3 frame 16 ga is the heavest 16 ga i have heard of....another fellows 10 ga 6 frame weighs close to 16 lbs more thanmost 8 gauges and may be possible it out weighs all parker 8 gauges.......charlie

Milton C Starr 07-10-2019 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie cleveland (Post 277172)
bills 3 frame 16 ga is the heavest 16 ga i have heard of....another fellows 10 ga 6 frame weighs close to 16 lbs more thanmost 8 gauges and may be possible it out weighs all parker 8 gauges.......charlie

I bet that is one soft shooting gun Charlie . I seen a Spanish sxs 10 this week for sale that was 14lbs 12oz I want to say .

Dean Romig 07-10-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Milton C Starr (Post 277147)
The gun In question I was wondering if it was a #4 is this one http://puglisiguns.cloudapp.net/inventory/Ant38175

Here’s a novel idea..... why not just telephone Mr. Puglisi and ask him what frame size the gun is?






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Milton C Starr 07-10-2019 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 277187)
Here’s a novel idea..... why not just telephone Mr. Puglisi and ask him what frame size the gun is?






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Figured no need to bother them asking about a gun I'm not buying . Just seen it was the heaviest parkers 10 listed and was wondering if it was a #4 . But it could just be a heavy #3 as well . I do need to contact them however on some other guns I am interested in .

Bill Murphy 07-10-2019 02:36 PM

The #4 frame Parker ten was a popular choice among early competitive shooters who were limited to 11 pounds by the rules of the Interstate Association as I recall. Many of these guns are graded guns weighing just under 11 pounds. Some of these guns were shot by Parker Brothers company shooters who did not pay full price for their guns. A PGCA letter usually mentions these shooters by name and also mentions the price charged. Not many duck hunters ordered grade 3, 4, or 5 ten gauge hammer guns to go into the marsh.

Milton C Starr 07-10-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 277226)
The #4 frame Parker ten was a popular choice among early competitive shooters who were limited to 11 pounds by the rules of the Interstate Association as I recall. Many of these guns are graded guns weighing just under 11 pounds. Some of these guns were shot by Parker Brothers company shooters who did not pay full price for their guns. A PGCA letter usually mentions these shooters by name and also mentions the price charged. Not many duck hunters ordered grade 3, 4, or 5 ten gauge hammer guns to go into the marsh.

I guess that would explain alot of the field grade 10 gauges I see . I would suppose that high grade guns were perhaps better kept as well .

Bill Murphy 07-10-2019 07:10 PM

It would also explain why many of the ten gauge lower grade guns were not made on #4 frames and didn't weigh 11 pounds. The graded 11 pound guns were competition pigeon guns, the lesser guns were field guns.

Milton C Starr 07-10-2019 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 277247)
It would also explain why many of the ten gauge lower grade guns were not made on #4 frames and didn't weigh 11 pounds. The graded 11 pound guns were competition pigeon guns, the lesser guns were field guns.

I wonder if that is a American thing with the heavy pigeon guns . The English pigeon guns I have seen at least the percussion ones were light for their gauge . I have some photos of a 4 bore pigeon gun a single barrel that I believe was 8lbs ! Of course it was designed for light loads around 1 ounce according to the owner . As well until the introduction of the 3.5" 10 ga , a 11lb short 10 is a bit overkill I guess you could say . Personally I like heavy guns but the majority of hunters don't seem keen on carrying a gun much over 8lbs .

Milton C Starr 07-11-2019 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 277247)
It would also explain why many of the ten gauge lower grade guns were not made on #4 frames and didn't weigh 11 pounds. The graded 11 pound guns were competition pigeon guns, the lesser guns were field guns.

Mr.Bill I just seen a 10 ga parker lifter with 3.5" chambers and 8lbs :shock:


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