why doesn't someone try their normal load and another without crimping - just stick a overshot wad in it and fire them both. Let us know the difference in the two. Paul

paul i have tried what you recommended...you will have more recoil with crimped loads espesially star crimped....the ones with only wadding and no crimp will have away less recoil but will have more bloopers.... charlie

That's what I thought. I have a box of Remington Ducks Unlimited brass 12ga shells made in 1987 that have a slight crimp to hold the overshot wad in place. Wonder how they'd shoot. Paul

would hate for you to have to shoot one of those ducks unlimited shells but ibet it would still go bang.... charlie