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Mark Ray 12-19-2018 05:07 PM

Dang...I must have accidentally logged onto Doublegunshop!

For the record...I never disagreed with anyone, but just merely wanted to understand how Mr. Budgeon inferred those measurements.

I suppose I should have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I'm out.

Drew Hause 12-19-2018 05:21 PM

OK. Parker Titanic steel and post-WWI Vulcan steel were AISI 1030 with a tensile strength of 75,000. Your MWT numbers for a 12g?

edgarspencer 12-19-2018 05:39 PM

Craig, I'm sure you know what you're saying, so I apologize if I'm a little dense. Axial, meaning parallel to an axis, still doesn't tell me which part you're referring to. In the end, it doesn't matter, as I assume you are just referring to 'a part' to scale the barrel wall thickness.
As someone, maybe Drew, said, wouldn't it be great if the original poster just measured the wall.
All that aside, I still believe the failure is due to an obstruction, and a 6500psi cartridge isn't going to burst that barrel by pressure alone.

Ed Blake 12-19-2018 05:39 PM

I know I would have the remaining RSTs in that opened box tested, at least to eliminate that variable.

Craig Budgeon 12-19-2018 07:25 PM

Drew, I don't make recommendations,too many attorneys but these are the minimums for me 2" .050, 2.5" .065, 2.75' ..070, and 3' magnum .080. Edgar, the axial shaft is the pivot point for the cocking levers and shares the same axis/center with the forearm iron.

edgarspencer 12-19-2018 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Craig Budgeon (Post 260820)
Edgar, the axial shaft is the pivot point for the cocking levers and shares the same axis/center with the forearm iron.

OK, Now I know where you are, but I have never heard that pin referred to as an 'axial' shaft.

"Axial shaft is my term, so far the Brits have not adopted it." Yeah, well, You know, Those Brits are slow to come around to these new terms.

Dean Romig 12-19-2018 08:11 PM

The barrels, and forend of course, ROTATE around an axis, hence “axial” shaft or pin.






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edgarspencer 12-19-2018 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 260824)
The barrels, and forend of course, ROTATE around an axis, hence “axial” shaft or pin.:vconfused:

So, All this time I thought the wheels on my car rotated around an AXLE Shaft.
And I guess that means my trailer is a two axial trailer. Damn, I learn so much from you, Dean:rotf:

btw, the definition of axial means sharing the same axis, and has nothing to do with rotation.

Dean Romig 12-19-2018 08:21 PM

Semantics Edgar, semantics....




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Chuck Bishop 12-19-2018 09:19 PM

It's going to be a long winter.

Craig Budgeon 12-19-2018 09:25 PM

Websters Dictionary defines axial as somrthing that forms an axis

Frank Srebro 12-19-2018 10:17 PM

Why am I thinking of the phrase "blowing smoke"? :banghead:

Drew Hause 12-20-2018 09:00 AM

Good will stops where dangerous..."smoke"...starts, and those numbers make no more sense that "axial shaft located in the receiver".
If they refer to the end of the chamber or just past the forcing cones, the 2 1/2" and 2 3/4" numbers are below the CIP recommended wall thickness for Category 1 “Standard Steel” (Non-alloy AISI 1045) with tensile strength = 101,526-123,137 psi. Are your numbers at 6"??
How many of the British boxlocks that you disassembled had wall thickness to match your numbers Craig?

John Campbell 12-20-2018 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Ray (Post 260812)
Dang...I must have accidentally logged onto DGJ!... I'm out.

Errr, ah, you musta meant doublegunshop.com...

And your response to such a nightmare is a wise one.

Drew Hause 12-20-2018 09:37 AM

Nice collection of wall thickness numbers here
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/...=379803&page=3

Craig Budgeon 12-20-2018 02:06 PM

Drew, the numbers that I express were measured 6" from the breech. I don't believe the conversation indicated any change, at least from my point of view.

Eric Eis 12-20-2018 04:49 PM

Guy's, let it go........Please

John Campbell 12-20-2018 06:05 PM

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