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Dave Suponski 12-18-2016 02:53 PM

Bill, I no longer own the gun and the letter. This gun had been redone by George Flaim many years ago and it was right as rain.

Paweł Janusz 12-18-2016 03:34 PM

how is bore?

Don Somers 12-19-2016 08:19 AM

Dave, did your gun have the marking for frame size or the s/n on every part?
Mine only has the s/n on the under side of both bbl's, no other markings, although there is F,CB stamped on the stock face near the tang groove.

Dave Suponski 12-19-2016 11:15 AM

No as I recall it didn't

Don Somers 01-01-2017 09:48 AM

Please correct me if I'm wrong but further research leads me to believe the numbers on the underside of the BBL's next to the Birmingham Proof House hallmark are the BBL makers I'D not a S/N. I have also found out that the locks are " Stoks Patent" as there are no other markings on any of the gun components, Could it be that this gun was manufactured using surplus musket parts? which makes the date on the BBL rib of 1869 more logical

Don Somers 01-07-2017 08:18 AM

confused
 
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here are some more pic's, the numbers next to the proof house hallmark are the only ones anywhere on any parts, note the letter "G" in the 2nd. pic.
I'll post pic's of the action when I get it back from DaveAttachment 52092

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Don Somers 01-07-2017 08:23 AM

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some how my first pic didn't show-up so here it isAttachment 52101

Dean Romig 01-07-2017 08:39 AM

Those look like Birmingham stamps - Rick Losey will know for sure.

First of those stamps I've seen on Parker barrels. They are definitely Laminated of some sort.

You Sir, have an extremely unusual Parker.






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Rick Losey 01-07-2017 08:50 AM

Dean is correct

Provisional Birmingham proof- remarkably clear set of marks

Paweł Janusz 01-07-2017 11:42 AM

look like a good restoration candidate

Don Somers 01-07-2017 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 208999)
Dean is correct

Provisional Birmingham proof- remarkably clear set of marks

Hi Rick: On another site (Damascus Knowledge) there was a pic of a set of bbl's showing the Birmingham proof hallmark with numbers next to it and they implied that the numbers are the bbl makers ID No. If that is true then the only info I have on the gun is the manufacture date on the bbl rib 1869. do you think that could be correct

Rick Losey 01-07-2017 08:24 PM

i have seen many numbers and letters on Birmingham guns- i have never seen a list that details them -

this is one of mine- i guess TENT is a barrel maker - can't prove it

http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=6867

on this Greener - i have yet to figure out the marks on the under ribs
http://parkerguns.org/forums/picture...pictureid=8413

i have a feeling that barrel makers marks are most often initials not nnumbers

can't prove it - but based on guns and British reels, makers and inspectors are hard to pin down

Don Somers 01-12-2017 08:38 AM

without any s/n numbers on any components and the non-typical parts for my gun i.e.: the oversized firing pin retainers (possibly made from surplus musket nipples), the oversized trip,the use of Stoaks locks and the frame size being off measurement. so I guess other than the 7735 next to the hallmark its anyones guess as to the actual date of manufacture, which leads me to believe the the "Manufactured For M. Hoag Seneca Falls N.Y. 1869" engraved on the rib may possibly be correct.
I'm disappointed that the missing parts could not be located but I'll keep trying if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Dave Fejlline is sending the action back today, I'll post pic's when I get it
Thanks for all the help form the members that followed this thread

Don Somers 01-21-2017 09:14 PM

I finally got around to reassembling the gun after getting the action back from Dave It now has two period correct hammers but still missing the finger pad for the lifter the "tirp" and firing pin retainers, I guess some guns are destined to be wall hangers however, I'm still not finished looking for these parts. Maybe some day there will be pic's of a complete gun posted. Thanks to all who replied to this post. :bigbye::
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Originally Posted by Don Somers (Post 209341)
without any s/n numbers on any components and the non-typical parts for my gun i.e.: the oversized firing pin retainers (possibly made from surplus musket nipples), the oversized trip,the use of Stoaks locks and the frame size being off measurement. so I guess other than the 7735 next to the hallmark its anyones guess as to the actual date of manufacture, which leads me to believe the the "Manufactured For M. Hoag Seneca Falls N.Y. 1869" engraved on the rib may possibly be correct.
I'm disappointed that the missing parts could not be located but I'll keep trying if anyone has any suggestions please let me know. Dave Fejlline is sending the action back today, I'll post pic's when I get it
Thanks for all the help form the members that followed this thread


Brian Dudley 01-21-2017 09:22 PM

I have some of the old style lifter buttons. Get in touch with me if you want.


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