Also on Gunbroker this morning. A good ole fashion quick flip!

Gunbroker. How do you do both?

They post their phone number and direct e-mail to force a direct transaction also the majority of shops have there entire inventory for sale on GB. As long as the reserve is never hit the auction can be ended whenever, with no sale. Look through Gunbroker and you will find 1,000's of ad's like that. GB is pretty cheap advertising for a shops inventory.

What a beautiful example from a great period of Parker production. A very elegant small bore with long barrels-----George? Dean?? Somebody???

Craig- I just bought a John Deere tractor..........

BTW what is his POR?

Anybody have the price yet? I love the ad: Consignment, as-is, no returns, USPS Money order only, 500.00 shipping charge.

GEEZ, A gun like this without an inspection period! Can you imagine strolling into your branch post office with at least $35,000.00 in cash and asking for money orders. You would be there for hours filling them out.

Well, it looks like we may know the price in two weeks.....the gun is listed on GB with the current bid at $20,000.00

The seller, a dealer, implies that the guy who bought the gun recently got into a pinch with his old lady and is now wanting to sell it to make her once again docile. Or at least less beastly, as the case may be. Well, I can't say I admire his sense of priorities but the gun sure looks nice. I especially like the flowers engraved on the sides.

Yes, an absolute sweetheart... lets see where it goes.

It certainly could have nicer wood. For a grade 5 I would expect some nicely figured French or Turkish walnut.






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Don't believe any more from most of these folks than from most used car dealers......surprised the story wasn't more of a tear jerker like his dog needed an operation.

POR is price on request.

Bid is up to $26,300, reserve not met.

TPS list 21 guns produced with this configuration and 30% (6) have straight grip stocks. This is the second such gun I have seen in recent months. It is also the second with floral engraving.

It's on Gunsinternational too. P. O. R. If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

It will be interesting to see if it makes the reserve on GB.






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A little over 30k reserve not met as of 10:45am today

I spoke with the gunshop representing the seller yesterday. I was told the P.O.R. has been changed to N.P.O.R. - that is to say no price will be shared until after the GB auction has run its course.

I pressed a bit and was told I could make an offer to be presented to the owner but if I was to do so it should be at a minimum of 50K and I should expect it will most likely be rejected. The feeling apparently being the gun is worth multiple wheelbarrows full of money and the market will determine how many.

So .... while I did have a high level of interest in this gun....My interest may have peaked in the latter moments of that conversation.

He also stated they intend to post a for sale price on GI if the auction does not meet the reserve on GB.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. :corn:

Either way it is a sweet little Parker and I hope to have an opportunity to shoulder it someday. Good luck to all!

It seems we can take it that the gun really isn't for sale at all if offers over $50k will most likely be rejected. I'm guessing the gunshop isn't really representing the seller very well if he makes such statements....:shock:






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my two cents worth. you can buy some great parkers for 50k without a hassle

You are so right. Milking the cow for all its worth.

My two cents- I get the feeling that the seller and his agent are paranoid about pricing their treasure. My guess is they have set the reserve so high that it cannot sell and they are using GB to do a appraisal of their treasure. I had the same experience with a fellow in New England.
I think it is childish and I want nothing to do with it.
Like Howard says- you can buy lots of nice guns without a hassle.

I have gotten very excited about various high grade guns before, but regardless of that excitement, I would never, ever, consider buying a gun anywhere that the seller wouldnt give even a 1 day non firing inspection. Caveat emptor....

I think you nailed it George!

Caveat Venditor as well!






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I think there just trolling to find a value. It's worth $35K to the guy that bought it from KTP no more no less.

Mark you shouldered one just like it at Hausmanns:rotf:

Notice the shipping and handling on the GB auction is $500:eek:

one thing I learned a long time ago is you can't act as the buyer and seller both. the owner has to put a price on his merchandise. This is a very nice gun,but not unique.

If a gun is described well, with pictures, and the seller answers any questions that I might have or sends another angle of a picture I'm requesting, I usually bid. I have been pleased with the two guns I bought from Amoskeag, one from Rock Island, two from Redding, all are auction companies with a no return policy and bought them without attending the auction in person. I think just about all of the 100s of the Prox-Bid auctions also are "as is".

Bill

We may see this gun "sell" at a price that will be public. In a few days, it will reappear on some site to be resold, probably by the same seller. If someone wants to find out what it will sell for, that bad, he will bid it up and disappear.

The gun is sold from KTP a dealer of guns and the seller thinks he's going to flip it for a $15K profit! I don't know what he's drinking but please pass the bottle:):)

Rich - the gun was not sold at Kittery Trading Post in Maine, but at a shop in Northwestern New Hampshire. Now it's in a shop in Western Pennsylvania.






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That's what I get for thinking:) Either way it was sold from a place that had to have some idea of what it was. I'm sure they didn't pick the asking price out of thin air.

Tommy Guns is located close to me...
 

I know the dealer, New Castle PA.. He has been getting better guns all the time. He is there to make money. His mistake was to list it so soon. He needed to keep it out of sight for a while.....SXS Ohio

how long should he have held it for a 15K increase?

I emailed for the POR on the Guns International listing and received a reply a few hours ago that "the owner is asking $49,000."

Patrick

I'm all for capitalism. Except for flippers.

Again, the question arises, How long should he have kept the gun under wraps before he chose to capitalize on the previous seller's error in not doing his due diligence in determining the retail market value of it?

It's a tough world out there. I've been stung by it and I'll bet most of us have been stung one way or the other. The value of something is its value - it's that simple, regardless of how long someone has owned it or who can, or can't, afford to pay that value. It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's just the world we live in.





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Dean, your being "stung" sounds like a great PP article. Give us a synopsis here to get us ready for the article.

After you Bill :coffee:






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Well....we all gotta make money appear in our bank accounts, I guess, but I've always had a lot more respect for people who do something, produce something, or add value to something than those who simply are opportunists.

I think the universe would be far happier to see the gun (any gun) sell to someone who will use it to shoot and cherish it than someone who thinks he can use it to transfer money from someone else's bank account to his next week. Incredibly old-fashioned and out of fashion ideas, I know.


At the end of the day...I'm not at all convinced there was any error made by the previous seller. Mainly because I'm thinking $35K for such a gun is probably very close to 'market price'...if not at the high end of the range. Time will tell...

Good points Greg - I agree.






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Maybe I should sell mine it's not in the condition of the one being discussed but I wouldn't ask $49K for it either..........on second thought it's just money and where will I find another one that's affordable ($49K isn't affordable to me) and I ENJOY shooting it. :) I doubt this gun will ever see a sporting clays course or a duck blind which is a shame really.