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I have 3 20 ga repros, and they have been shot a lot
But no problem like with 28 and the 410 repros failing With ejector stops, I am going to get 6 fixed like the way Brian does it |
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I see you took this opinion right to CSMC when you posted this review on their Facebook page. "Overpriced junk, engraving etched instead hand cut, metal soft, no hand fitting of parts, customers confused about their service, barrels fall a part. In overall guns look nice at first but their quality don't match price tag at all. It's PRODUCED custom gun! Like huge junk! This is what customer feel and opinion of experienced gunsmith with full machinning bacground that is passionate of fine firearms, quality precision and true hand skill and don't need to bs to make money." |
Simply sad as is as customers are confused about specific manufacturer that offers reproduction firearms at very spice prices
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Main reason CSMC quit making or offering
.410 Parker barells was the ejector stop plates That were made out of a soft metal that bent after 200 or so shells and the poorly designed place that they fit into the the end of the barells, after they sent 4 replacement stop plates that were supposed to be made out of a better metal, I sent to a super Gunsmith to get Fixed.I told them the.problem and they never acknowledged there was a problem. POOR customer Service |
I'm a newbie to this site and just bought my first 28ga PR...be kind !!
It was suggested I look up this thread as a precautionary fix. I will be contacting Brian or Brad to be proactive :) |
Can one of our gunsmiths address the possibility of installing weaker ejector springs on 28 gauge Repros? I have never had my forends apart, but maybe someone would post a picture of what is going on inside.
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It’s unimaginable that a facility like CSMC couldn’t source harder steel for the ejector stop plate... heck it PB could do it about 100 years ago I guess it shouldn’t be too hard to do today.
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The issue is not the plate. It is the material that the rib extension is made of.
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I'm the guy who started this discussion topic a while ago. The work done by Bachelder has fixed the problem of the plate flying out. You will find that the fix stops the ejectors from hitting the problem plate, So the ejection stroke is about 75% of what it was originally. In the last few months though my left barrel ejector has become a extractor. Has have yet to approach Bachelder about this because I do not want to give up my parker for now. With the possibility of quail hunting this winter in the south I will probably wait till late spring to get it back to them.
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Need gunsmith that uses brain?
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Using the extractor style stop screw, we can make a pigeon gun (no doll's head) barrel WITH ejectors. That sounds like an interesting project for someone.
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Make sure you take plenty of pics as you make progress on the project, Mr. Murphy :bigbye:
..but, what about the unsightly pit left in the frame? Where the dolls head used to be..how do you make that look not terrible? |
There is no reason to alter or remove the extractor doll’s head.
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I am not sure of the chronology when Parker made the statement that dry firing was acceptable, and when the ejector was an added option, but while there’s argument about the effect off dry firing on hammers, I don’t think there’s any doubt that dry firing an ejector gun without using snap caps is a very bad idea.
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For everyone’s information - the only Parkers that can be dry fired without harm are the hammerless guns. The plungers or firing pins on Parker hammer guns are as susceptible to breaking as any other gun with ‘floating’ firing pins.
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In reply to MD GSP, I was referring to making an ejector gun out of a true pigeon gun, which has no void in the receiver for a doll's head. Another answer to his comment is "It should be no problem for a good gunsmith to fill the void left by the doll's head in the receiver."
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Pawel's post did not address the question. I will thank other posters to continue this discussion without Pawel's disruptive comments.
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What is disrupting, i state that it can be fixed properly and offer contact, shame on you Americans, no gun restoration for you!
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My experience is if you want to move to America, and practice your trade for Americans, you would be better served if you left your Eastern European demeanor at the door. Only speaking for myself, but I think having more choices who to do work for me is great, but manners are as important as skill.
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Don’t believe everything you hear on the news. Politicians have sold manufacturing out in the US, to be sure. But, don’t delude your european(?) self into believing manufacturing, and by virtue skill, is non-existent in the US. That would be a foolish (and counterproductive) mindset if you are seeking to begin restoration or repair work. :usa: I hope we’ll learn more of what you have to offer :) |
Mr. Janusz,
Are you familiar with the "proper" methods of color case hardening - a radical diversion from the improper blued frame, hammers, screws etc. that you show on your thread? http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30865 . |
O yes, well you forget one think: somebody who got skills to restore firearm to a point where its difficult to say if it was restored can make a great living without offering that service to customers but utilizing it in tons of other ways offering independence and freedom, I'm here being nice simply offering my help and getting slapped around for that. You can keep your advise to your self as it don't mach what this country is about.
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I wasn't "slapping" anybody around but simply asked a very reasonable question. No inference at all, just trying to be nice.
Incidentally, I think I know very well what this country, the United States of America, is all about.... Freedom of Expression is only one of those things this country is about. And you are free to express your thoughts as long as you don't insult any of the nice people here. . |
What a hypocrisy
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I think im done with parker pages you guys can fix all your fancy guns your self, at affordable prices.
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No, please stay.
Sorry if you feel that you've been mistreated. . |
Thsnk you Mr. Romig
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I shot the hell out of a 28 gauge for skeet. The Dolls Head insert went bad. At the time, I asked Brian Dudley to fix it. He did, It works, nuff said.
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I will think that ejectors shell not hit it in normal operation when tuned right and then the plate functions only as a lock to keep them in place.
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I think the only way to accomplish that would be with a stop screw as others have suggested. The travel of the ejectors otherwise is only limited by the stop plate... How else could it be tuned? If you have a suggestion I'm sure a lot of folks here would like to know what you would suggest. . |
As long proper understanding of mechanism is done then a concept can be implemented and thinks will not go bad, that is why i guarantee all my work.
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Mr. Janusz do you do case coloring of metal? Do you have any pictures of your work. I looked at the album you posted and if you recolored the barrels they look good.
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Yes, I like those Twist barrels too. Did you do them?
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Yes. This is my work. Yes i do case coloring traditional way,
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Personally, I like the other fix.
A deeper dove tail. I’d be concerned with the Ejector beating against the set screw with the second fix mentioned. May peen the hell out of the Ejector rod and the set screw. That may cause internal issues in the future ? |
Right Joe - to the point where you wouldn't be able to remove the screw if you needed to without major surgery.
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