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Dean Freeman 01-22-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 127818)
The key word being 'one'. Today, it would be a 4473 two letters of reference from the local constabulary, reams of documents from HHS attesting to the mental stability of the buyer, and copies of birth certificates, IRS returns, etc etc.

Your fogot a blood sample!:rolleyes:

Dean Freeman 01-22-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Losey (Post 127820)
what struck me was the $25 express charge -- which I take to be shipping

that was a lot of pocket change back then-

you can still ship a gun for $25 - of course, now, it will get lost or broken - but the cost is similar

Maybe that was a "rush order" charge? Or maybe they had Obama tax back then too!:eek:

edgarspencer 01-22-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Freeman (Post 127867)
Maybe that was a "rush order" charge?

Back in those days, quick service was expected and almost always delivered. Today it's nearly unheard of.

Dean Freeman 01-22-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by edgarspencer (Post 127869)
Back in those days, quick service was expected and almost always delivered. Today it's nearly unheard of.

Unless you owe someone money (see IRS)!

Brian Dudley 01-23-2014 09:46 AM

That is a VERY nice case you have built Edgar!
I want to build a couple of cases like that for a couple of guns that I am building now. I have a ton a Quarter Sawn White Oak here that I wanted to use for the cases.

For handles, one might look at what is out there for Guitar case handles. That is something to search for that would easily render more results that "Gun Case Handles".

I just can never get over the interior constuction of those old factory walnut cases. All the bare wood contact on the gun. And how things could possibly move around. Yikes!

Rick Losey 01-23-2014 10:05 AM

actually -- leather case handles and straps are fairly easy to find

Dysons, Jeff's Outfitters, Galazans and a few others carry case repair/build parts

and antique trunk repair sites are a good source for parts
such as
http://www.trunk.com/handles.htm


as for gunfit in the walnut cases. yes - not padded - but I have been told the insides were soft wood - a little less abrasive. and if you notice the lids have rods to press the gun in place.

Jean Swanson 01-23-2014 10:24 AM

Years ago the PGCA and the BOD presented a Parker under lifter $300 grade to Ron Kirby at one of our annual meetings . I donated the barrel action , Oscar refinished the barrels , George Flame restocked the gun , and other goodies for the interior of the case came from various Parker collectors . I made a walnut case with inlays and dovetail corners . My friend Winston Churchill engraved Ron's initials in an oval plate that was attached to the case top . I purchased all the hardware for the case from M. Huey . The project of making the case was fun and challenging . I know the gun was sold to a New Hampshire collector without the case . I am sure there are pictures of the gun and case somewhere ???

Ed Blake 01-23-2014 03:57 PM

I'm not sure I could sell something like that, but to each his own.

Bruce Day 01-24-2014 12:51 PM

You would have to be pretty destitute to sell something others had worked so hard to present to you as a gift.....either that or you couldn't care less.

Jean Swanson 01-24-2014 01:20 PM

I did not want to cast stones on anyone , but to say making a case is more work and coordination than you might think . I am sure that Ron appreciated the efforts by all , but has move on to new endeavors.

John Farrell 01-31-2014 08:42 PM

Just tossing this in. If you decide to line the interior with wool felt, find the closest billiard table retailer and you'll find he has it in his shop. It's actually a bit heavier and denser than the shooting case material, but, easier to find. I don't think it's any more difficult to work with. Latches, hinges, corners, etc., try Rockler Companies in MN.

Good luck with your project. Post photos from time to time.

edgarspencer 01-31-2014 09:32 PM

I will second what John says, but Billiard Table cloth is a worsted wool, and unlike felt, it is a woven material, and is easily worked, and easy to clean with a dry brush. Felt is a random, pressed cloth and frays easily.
I get my billiard table cloth from a woman on ebay and I use 3M 7700 spray adhesive.
Peter Dyson, in England sells precut dividers, but I make my own. He also sells all sorts of gun case hardware.

Dean Freeman 02-05-2014 08:47 AM

John and Edgar,
Thanks for the tips. Building a case, while fun, is challenging. Methods like which adhesive to use for case liner material are indespensible. Are there any other tips regarding building methods any of you builders might have?
I am interested in making this thread the go to for those needing information on case building. I know that there are many more cases out there that are just dying to be shown. Send in more pics and stories about your cases with and without guns (try to include dimensions and scale when possible). Don't hesitate to link other forum entries to this thread as well. There is probably enough valuable information hidden in the pages of this forum to make many volumes (and a set i'd happily pay for). If you know of old threads that will lend useful information, then by all means, add them.
Keep the information coming. Your experiences are welcome and necessary for a successful build, and thanks to everyone who has contributed so far.

David Noble 02-05-2014 08:21 PM

Case to O1248
 
3 Attachment(s)
Here are pics of case to gun number O1248

Dean Freeman 02-06-2014 02:06 PM

David,
Absolutely gorgeous! The close ups are really great at helping understand the methods used to add the top and bottom to the sides. Any dimensions you care to give would be appreciated.

David Noble 02-06-2014 03:23 PM

I took some quick measurements.

External: 33 3/8" X 9" X 1 3/4" Total height closed is 3 1/2" so both top and bottom are identical.

Internal: 32 1/4" X 8" x 1 1/4" case body is all made from 1/2" wood.

The divider is 32 1/4" x 5 3/4"

I doubt this to be the original case to this gun. It needs to be about 3/8" wider and the small barrel block is cut for a dolls head extension which this gun doesn't have.
I need to make a spacer to hold the barrels in position so they won't hit the stock when the case is tilted.
I hope this helps.:)

Dean Freeman 02-06-2014 05:07 PM

David,
The case looks like others i've seen. You're probably right about the gun not being original to the case, but it looks like other parker cases indeed. Another note is that the cases I've seen all have the stock and action bordering the edge of the case. The void created by the other side of the wooden insert that holds the shells is just enough to fit the barrels on the opposing edge of the case. Is it possible that your insert has been lifted out and moved so that stock/action and barrels are all jammed together. Perhpas this was done to accomodate a larger gun, other than the original one that the case was made for? Just wondering.
For some photo's of what i'm describing, check out the pictures that Bruce (BD) posted. The link is on the fifth entry, on the first page of this thread.

Best
Dean

David Noble 02-06-2014 05:35 PM

Dean, you are exactly right about the insert. I have tried to position it so the barrels would be away from the stock and it just wouldn't fit.


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