that 8 ga should reach out and getem at 50 yards...with just 2 ounce of shot it should be very pleasant to shoot...i wish my old 8 ga had a lot of choke but the tighest choke in the 8 s i have isabout modiefied in a old f a loomis i got from destrey... the 10 ga loads of scotts will do a very good job on themturkeys ive tried this load on paper and it will be what i hunt with some in the ten... mills on the average a good ten patterns better than a 12 but there are some of them 12 s that just seem to shoot impossible good patterns... ive yet to beat rays 12 ga with even my 8 ga at 70 steps his gun will put 90 to 110 pallets in a 9 inch circle at 70 steps my best so far with the 8 ga was 36 and the 10 ga as come in at 36....rays load and gun is best i know of or heard of...turkey s nite mare is what rays got....i guess im a dreamer i like to think i can take my old shotguns and kill them turkeys as far as i want to but i know this is not possible but i still like to dream.... charlie

A good 12 gauge double with really tight full chokes is on my wishlist, but has a few big items ahead of it.

TURKEY TARGET WITH VITALS
 

Charlie,

This will really tell you how well your pattern is doing. No hits in the vitals may leave a bad feeling in your stomach when that chance comes. You and I think alike. BIGGER IS BETTER. BIGGER BORE. BIGGER PAYLOAD. BIGGER SHOT. This means BIGGER CHANCE of turkey on the table!

Hope you can print them. :dh:

i looked at the post. its a very good turkey head i will have to get my wife to run them off for me... charlie

Has anyone besides me tinkered around with GREX(powdered polyethylene) as a group tightener? It was a big deal about 15 years ago. I found about a 25% improvement in pattern density with it

i ve never heard of this stuff but if it tightens the pattern by 25 percent i would like to have some of it..i have found a good reloading source so maybe they will have some....thanks for the info.... charlie

Charlie, it is a lead shot buffering agent that is designed to cushion the shot helping to prevent shot deformation and reduce the number of resultant "flyers".

The stuff works for me, but I am a loss to describe why. I can't imagine why the soft, fine plastic would do much good to buffer lead. In my mind, I think it acts as a lubricant as the shot goes through the choke, and results in fewer deformed pellets.

i do have some but never tested it, most tight patterns are tight enough already. but i will do some test loads with it and get back to you all, scott

Buffering shot charges increases pressures. Be careful.