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Rick Losey 02-06-2013 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allen newell (Post 95788)
why would it not be there? not all pkrs are in the book?

no -there are many gaps in the serial numbers in the serialization book.

Ed Brackett 02-06-2013 10:33 PM

OH, thanks to you and all for the quick replies.
No, the barrels have not been sleved and I will get pictures up in the next few days.

Ed Brackett 02-06-2013 10:37 PM

Dean, I made a typo on the bbl marking and it is Kf not Bf as I stated in my original liating. I appologize. I'll pics up as soon as I can.

Bill Murphy 02-07-2013 09:28 AM

Ed, yours is probably the earliest VH grade gun to surface, an interesting find.

Kevin McCormack 02-08-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 95721)
We have seen the "Kf" stamp on the barrel flats but I don't recall ever seeing a "Bf" stamp there.

The Kf indicated that King pronounced the barrels (or gun) finishen or filalized or fin ..... done and passed inspection in other words

The derivation of this mark has been discussed at least a dozen times on this forum. Bob Runge told me he thought the 'f' stood for "fertig", the German word for "finished". This makes eminent sense when you consider that many employees in the barrel shop in the late 1890's were Germans, and had license to choose their own symbols or characters to signify completion of different stages of work and passage of the barrels to the next stage of gunbuilding. The 'W' is universally recognized as the mark of Walter King.

Ed Brackett 02-09-2013 06:33 PM

Pictures of VH 88234
 
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All, please see the pics of this early VH. As noted the engraving is simple but more ornate (PH? style) than the pics I have seen of other VH guns. It appears to be in appx. 30-40% with no pitting and blueing remaining on the top and bottom of the barrels. The gun has been in the same family since great-granddad bought it.

Your comments are appreciated.

Rick Losey 02-09-2013 06:41 PM

very nice - I like the little dress up, and 88K is quite early.

the buggered screw slots could be cleaned up , and in the grand scheme of things, not all that bad -

is the head of the stock a bit dark (some oil soaking) or is that just the pics?

thanks for posting the pics

I really like seeing one stay in a family

Bill Murphy 02-09-2013 07:24 PM

This is really interesting. Apparently, this gun was made before the V Grade engraving pattern had been finalized and the P pattern was being used. We would have to see more early Vs to determine when the standard V engraving pattern was first used. This is the seventh V Grade made by Parker Brothers. We need to see more V Grades in this serial number block.

Dave Suponski 02-09-2013 07:45 PM

I agree Bill. Very interesting.

Dean Romig 02-09-2013 08:43 PM

Grade 1 hammerless guns with Twist barrels were listed as PT

The first fluid steel Parker hammerless gun was the V with Vulcan Steel barrels and may have initially been a Grade 1 as well but with the choice of Vulcan Steel barrels. but.....

we have seen VH Parkers with both Twist and Damascus barrels.

Investigation continues...


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