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Dave Suponski 08-29-2012 09:54 PM

A few things to consider here. We will be at the mercy of the quality of the posters picture taking ability. What we will be able to offer is an opinion based on these pictures. How many times have we looked at a gun the second time and noticed something we didn't see the first time? A small crack or bulge or whatever and these problems would have a huge effect on value. How many times have you had a conversation with a fellow PGCA member about the value of a particular gun and found that the both of you were miles apart?

What I think I am trying to say here is that I don't believe there is an accurate way to value a gun by pictures on the internet. The gun must be in hand. I like many of us have bought guns on the net only to send them back after a close inspection.

Not trying to be a spoil sport here just interjecting my concerns. Someone said "A slippery slope" I would have to agree. One of our primary purposes is to educate visitors about our beloved Parker Gun not dissapoint them.

Personally I will not value a gun posted here for numerous reasons.The main reason is I don't think I'm qualified.

wayne goerres 08-29-2012 10:03 PM

I don't agree with the for members only. People join your forum because they like the information they recieve and the help they get from other members, weather they are forum members or PGCA members. I am just a member for now but Brian Dudly helped me out whan I bought my 10ga and that will probable be the reason I become a PGCA member. What I meant about the camera was that you can take a picture of a stock and not show a hairline crack or take a picture of the inside of the bore and it will show up bright and shinny but the last inch of the muzzle will be pitted. These are some of the reasons no gun dealer will tell you what your gun is worth. Just my HMO.

wayne goerres 08-29-2012 10:08 PM

Sorry I cut my self short on my last comment. Meant to say no gun dealer will appraise your gun without having it in hand.

Robin Lewis 08-29-2012 10:13 PM

What Mr. Suponski said.

TroyMoritz 08-29-2012 10:14 PM

Alright, I'll bite the worm. I'm a new member here and I really respect the Parker fans, I'm just not a big American gun fan myself. (If I were, it'd be Parkers and Fox)

I'm an English gun fanatic and traded off one of my guns. The buyer fell short of cash he needed to make the deal so I took a Parker in partial trade.

Soooo, what's the gun worth? It's a 1906 era Parker VH with perfect bores and great wall thickness all around. 12 bore, 2.75" chambers. .042" heavy choke in both bores. .027" bore diameter in both. The gun is as new and was purportedly fully restored by Delgrego. Full, perfect case colors (correct look), all metal is perfect. Screws are timed. 30" barrels, #2 frame. Clearly a fowling gun if there ever was one. Pistol grip.

The wood has been restored and gets an B+/A- grade. Crisp checkering. Ugly pachmyer recoil pad should probably go away. Other than that, gun is in 98% condition.

What price do I value the gun at for insurance, and in this economy, what price do I ask to sell such a gun within 30 days? (reasonably motivated sale)

Thanks for the education!

Regards,

D. Troy Moritz
Dtroymoritz@gmail.com

Dean Romig 08-29-2012 10:43 PM

Not sure I can see any benefit when balanced with potential negatives.

Probably requires a lot more thought...

Too many opinions and egos = lots of ruffled feathers.

Bobby Cash 08-29-2012 11:13 PM

Isn't this like asking the fat kid to watch the cake?
Although these appraisals aren't binding, as the owners of similar firearms, many of which are or soon may be for sale (I've seen pictures of you guys), won't wishful thinking tend to skew objectivity?

That being said, I do enjoy the posted pictures and the opportunity to see others' Parkers.
Please keep 'em coming.

Steve Huffman 08-30-2012 05:44 AM

A gun or anything is worth what someone will pay. Some will pay more because they have more ,some will pay more because their rival is there. Eveyone has the right to or at least we used to ! speak their thoughts . I dont think this is a good idea . We could vote on it.

Pete Lester 08-30-2012 05:44 AM

The reason I suggested it be done in a members only forum is to prevent the clever troll who is actually looking to sell a gun disguised manner in an "open" forum area.

As far as safety concerns, check the recent threads on barrel wall thickness, when we discuss that issue we are sometimes giving recomendations a gun is shootable. Same with composite barrel considerations, many us say it's OK. What new safety area could be be covering that we don't already.

Perhaps the appraisal could be done as a poll, with members voting on what they feel the appropriate range of value is, perhaps broad, <$1000, then in $500 increments and for the most valuable guns simply >$10,000,with the idea that a gun above this range really should have a formal in hand appraisal done.

calvin humburg 08-30-2012 07:03 AM

I think it's a capital Idea and I like to look at pictures. But they tell me if I leave a ladder leaning on my house and some idiot climbs up and falls off and gets hurt he can sue me. O by the way if that happens to me please pray 4 me. best ch

could it work with a disclamer? I wish it could work it would be an interesting thread to check and watch....


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