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Francis Morin 10-23-2009 02:49 PM

Brad and triggers- Worth a phone call or e-mail
 
Brad is not only my gunsmith of years, but a good friend and shooting partner. I only own one double with a single selective trigger, a 12 ga. M21 made in 1949. All the years I have used it I have never changed it from firing the right barrel first, then the left. I should prefer single triggers I suppose, as I grew up shooting Model 12's and still do yet today (they kill birds dead for me consistently, and nothing succeeds like success. My doubles, including a AH fox Utica mfg. 20 Sterlingworth (SN 261981) which I recently acquired, all have double triggers and were stocked for a RH shooter (which I am, and Thanks be, also dominant right eye--

I can't tell another man how to lead a mallard or a pigeon, what my eyes and reflexes tell me to do with the gun in hand may be way different for another person. But double triggers are virtually fool-proof (Murphy's Law nonwithstanding) and IMO only-a VH or even VHE with barrels shortened from 28" to 26" (WHY?) is already compromised to some extent, and to spend extra dollars to restock and re-configure the trigger(s)- as opposed to what other PGCA members have suggested as to selling/trading the Parker as is and buying another with a single trigger might be less damaging to the bank account. I have several older 12 gauge Smiths which I like, and they fit me and perform flawlessly- BUT they all have double triggers and I have turned down 4 good ejector Smith 12 bores offered to me that had Hunter One Triggers.

Brad's work and reputation speak for itself, he is a friend, so of course I will endorse him, as Brad is a PGCA member and often is a good source for Parker parts, stocks and barrels, and also for other doubles as well. He is the gunsmith who put together my "project Parker" a 12 GHE with the Christian Fischer after-market ejector systems- I had the receiver and the ejector forearm, Brad found and fitted 28" Vulcan no. 2 frame barrels and a pg PH buttstock-I am very pleased with the gun and his work and recommend Brad to anyone in the Midwest.

I can also understand the "hesitation" on certain single triggers. If I am properly informed, LC Smith and LeFever specialist Buck Hamlin of MO. will not work on a Smith Hunter One Trigger-

Destry L. Hoffard 10-23-2009 03:07 PM

So are we to assume that you're doing Miller single trigger installation now Brad?

DLH

RJ Jose 10-24-2009 12:15 AM

Thanks to all who have responded to the thread. I feel I must explain the cirumstances, I suffer from a medical condition do to injuries, where I loose circulation in my hands at temps less than 40 degrees. This requires me to wear battery heated gloves when it gets cold. As you can imagine, they are quite bulky, so I shoot a single trigger Uggie as a cold weather gun.
Since I'm trying to resserect this 16ga. o frame to a shootable condition, I thought it would make an excellent replacement - who would not rather carry a Parker? In the course of investigation, I became interested in Elmer Miller and his single trigger. I know some people don't think much of them,but they are very prevalent and could not have been in business as long as they were without some supporters. Is there a book or historical info on his contribution to firearm history.
As a side note, what was available from Parker if one wanted to order a single trigger? Was it only Remington years ,did they have their own system, send them in for Miller conversion? I'm curious and can't find very much info.

Dave Suponski 10-24-2009 08:36 AM

RJ,I applaud you in your quest to get this Parker back in the field.Parker Brothers manufactured their own single triggers starting in/around 1922.I call this trigger the single screw trigger.About 1932 Parker started to offer an"improved" single trigger.I call this trigger the two screw trigger because of the two small screws that are visible under/near the trigger guard bow.The improved later trigger was better than the first design but could still be problematic. There were several other single triggers designed over the years and some of them have found their way on Parkers guns but in my opinion the Miller is the best single trigger"out there".

RJ Jose 10-25-2009 12:47 AM

Thanks Dave, that is exactly the type of info I was looking for.


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