now that 12 by 12 x 7x57r sounds like a winner to me...the 7x57r round is a good round i dropped a few deer this year with it in a suhl drilling...charlie

I made a pair of shims/spacers to go under the 444 Marlin dies and make them the correct height to load 405 WCF in for the 10.75x65R . That way i can keep from moving my die settings for the 25+ 444's I already play with on a regular basis !

I'm gonna maybe get 20 or so pieces of the Hornady 405 WCF brass and that should take care of me for the drilling !

We have it here in the shop and I just measured the chokes with a set of calipers . I am getting .687" for the right barrel and .684" for the left barrel !

I call that Extra Full and Extra Fullerer :shock:

Bout the only way this thing would be good for deer would be a 140 grain bullet in the 7mm barrel and Breneke slugs in the other two .

Way to tight for buckshot in my always biased opinion .:whistle:

Here are pics of the engraving on the Sauer 12-12-7x57R . I kinda have this thing for Sika and Roe deer .

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...JPSauer008.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...JPSauer009.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...JPSauer010.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...JPSauer012.jpg

As to the capercaillie here's a picture of one as well as a picture of the engraving .


http://www.birdforum.net/opus/images...percaillie.jpg

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...JPSauer009.jpg

Now the Roe Buck !

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...JPSauer010.jpg

http://www.countrysportsandcountryli...uck3yrsweb.jpg

boy thats one nice gun...the engraving is wonderful them germans were sure masters at buiding drillings and makeing them lookk good....guess your rite about the chokes being a little tite for buckshot but ive had a few guns with full chokes that shot buckshot pretty good....a brenekee slug placed even close to the rite spot will bring home the bacon....dont you just love these old guns..... charlie

I agree with you 100% .

Optimum would be one of the shotgun tubes loaded with 00 and the other with a Brenneke and of course a 140 grainer in the rifle tube . But one can't have everything !

If I'm able to acquire this one this week it'll pretty much kill my play cash for Baltimore the following weekend . Which really doesn't bother as I wasn't looking forward to walking around all day saturday on that hard floor !

You know it seems to me when I shot skeet with our Kerner drilling last year it was either black clouds or clkear misses and I put the calipers to the barrels the following day and I believe that ones choked full or better in both barrels as well . However full choke in a 16 gauge with #1 buck shoots rather well sometimes .

May take that one to the pattern board next wednesday just for giggles .

let us know how she patterns i predict it to well... charlie