Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums

Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums (https://parkerguns.org/forums/index.php)
-   General Parker Discussions (https://parkerguns.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   8 GA. Shells (https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6566)

CraigThompson 03-09-2012 04:15 PM

Anyone here ever tried using the brass shells with roundballs the way (I assume the brits) used to load them by pinching the brass in at the top of the shell in 6 or 8 places ?

Bill Murphy 03-09-2012 05:50 PM

I see no reason to crimp a brass case with a ball or bullet unless you are actually carrying the gun in the field. There is no crimping with Rocky Mountain Cartridge Company cases.

CraigThompson 03-09-2012 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy (Post 64475)
I see no reason to crimp a brass case with a ball or bullet unless you are actually carrying the gun in the field. There is no crimping with Rocky Mountain Cartridge Company cases.

If I wasn't planning on using it in the field I wouldn't load it in the first place .

And I don't know if this is actually what one would call a crimp as such . To me it sort of looks like a large torx bit .

Oh incidently if it was done before I think it's safe to assume that it CAN be done again with Rocky Mountain cases regardless of what your PERSONAL opinion may or may not be .

Bill Murphy 03-09-2012 09:45 PM

I'm sure you are correct.

calvin humburg 03-10-2012 07:08 PM

Black crap??? Somebody slap him:)

George M. Purtill 05-06-2012 07:49 PM

Farfaro 8 guage shells
 
has anyone tried these farfaro shells in the post above?
my gun is not nitro proofed so perhaps this is my way to go.
What are the gamebore hulls like? are they different from the industrial hulls?

Mark Landskov 05-07-2012 06:26 AM

I have seen/had a few English shotshells made of brass in my collection. They are quite thin when compared to the stout, lathe turned cases from RMC, and probably tolerate repeated crimping in the fashion described in the previous postings. A modern crimp starter would probably do the trick, seeing as how the crimp is not folded in completely. The MEC crimp starter is made of a machined metal, isn't it? Maybe it would be the right choice for use on brass. Cheers!

edgarspencer 05-07-2012 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 64490)
If I wasn't planning on using it in the field I wouldn't load it in the first place .

And I don't know if this is actually what one would call a crimp as such . To me it sort of looks like a large torx bit .

Oh incidently if it was done before I think it's safe to assume that it CAN be done again with Rocky Mountain cases regardless of what your PERSONAL opinion may or may not be .

I think you might want to speak to RMC. I seriously doubt their case is thin enough not to crack, if crimped. The loads I have seen do not have a "shotshell crimp", but just the most modest turned in edge like a rifle cartridge crimp, and they were drawn brass cases. There was also a canalure in the (Conical) bullet.

Mark Landskov 05-07-2012 06:49 AM

RCBS makes a set of 12 gauge dies that applies a slight turned over crimp, similar to that used on a lead bullet handgun load. If used with a stiff overshot wad, this might be a good alternative. I have only seen this done on thin, drawn hulls, such as Magtech. Good luck!

Bill Murphy 05-07-2012 08:38 AM

I would prefer a glued in top wad in my RMC hulls. I have no interest in using black powder. Mr. Farfaro is filling a void but I think most of us would rather approach the eight gauge situation from a different direction.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:55 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org