I feel sorry for those shooters at your club, my club and most of the clubs I shoot in that they refuse to accept the effectiveness of 7/8oz. loads. Most of the blame falls upon the shoulders of the major ammo companies and the governing bodies of the NSSA, ATA and NCSA by not mandating the reduced loads. International trap is limited to a 24gm load and they found that their scores did not go down in fact their averages increased. We as shooters could pull a public relations coup by showing that we are depositing less lead in the environment. This should be spearheaded by the major ammo companies and the aforementioned governing bodies. It is almost impossible to find a 1150-1200fps load in 7/8oz at a reasonable price at outlets like Dicks, Wallymart and Cabelas. Lead is the most expensive component and the most environmentally sensitive portion of a shotshell. This a no-brainer for me and a win-win for the shooting community. Thanks for allowing my rant- it's getting lonely up here on my soapbox. I'm done. I'm heading to the armory to load up some 7/8's.
Daryl

we have to many laws now i think it should be left up to the individual to what load you wanna use be it trap skeet or field...just my opinion..... charlie

Charlie,
I'm by no means suggesting laws handed down by a bunch of overstuffed government pinheads. I hate laws. I'm saying that by being proactive we can forestall any future lead bans which I'm afraid are inevitable. The tree huggers will see that less lead is being deposited which just might placate them long enough for our grandchildren to enjoy these wonderful old guns in the uplands. We've already lost the wetlands.

i to am looking for some data for either using red dot and sr7625, ill be using the loads in 2 remington 12 gauge 1894 damascus, my stanfort and laxton 12 gauge english hammer gun, also my lefever 12 gauge sidelock grade g, i shoot black in them now, i have winchester AA white wads, lots of high brass winchester hull and federal low brass hulls, also have some winchester 209 and remington rst primers, also have some federal pink wads for 1 1/4 oz, also i have fiber wads, federal plastic shot cups, they have no cushion, also i have about 500 hornady pacific green verilite wads for 7/8oz, anybody have data that i can use some of the above components to construct a load of about 1100-1150 fps, ill be using 2 3/4" hulls just want lite bird and skeet loads,

Sr 7625
 

Rodney,

Hogdons has an extended list of loads for 7625, some with Winchester and Remington hulls, primers, and Claybuster clones. The softest I have loaded used 7625 with Fed paper and the above loads. broke clays just fine with my old Damascus SxS when I was on. I purchased some of the newer 3/4 oz. wads and they work well too. PB works well but not as soft as soft as 7625.

Good shooting,
John

Jent, I don't believe detonation has ever occured in shotgun shells. There must have been another problem. In 40+ yeads of reloading I have never read in any shotgun reloading manual about the dangers of detonation or wad pressure increasing PSI. JMHO-Paul

Some powders do burn clean or dirty. If you were reloading and the powder seemed fine so far as residue, and you went a lesser payload or powder and there was more reisue, then yes you could say there was incomplete combustion and maybe a different combination should be used. As far as wad pressure you need no more than just enough to seat the wad against the powder. Any more and you're just collapsing the cushion part of the wad which defeats it's purpose. Paul

Wad pressure became irrelevant in shotgun reloading with the advent of the plastic shot cup. Just be sure the wad is seated on the powder or you'll have a squib.

hi john......most slow burning powders like 7625 or 800x have very low chamber pressures but may often have large verations in feet per second and are very dirty because of the lite loads to acheve these low psi. they are dirty because they are not ment to be used in very lite loads. they were made to be used in high performance loads and shoot much cleaner when the pressure gos up to the 10,000 psi range. but i would not recomend these type pressures in any of our fine old parkers. i would recomend trying the new winchester AA LITE , burns very clean ,psi in the 5000 psi range. check out there loadingd tables and i think you will be happy and safe.my son and i use this in our twist steel and damascus parkers for skeet and sporting clays