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Dean, depends on whether you are talking about the specific 1937 cataloged Double Trap or whether about hundreds of other double barrelled vent rib guns of various grades and gauges that could be used for shooting trap, skeet or game. TPS lists a lot of vent rib guns. And not all guns that were likely used mainly for trap were vent rib.

I had a discussion with Mark Conrad about the TPS numbers, and it was his opinion that there were a lot more late vent rib guns than were identified in the SN book. There were a lot of late small bore guns too, so maybe it follows that there were a lot of late small bore vent ribs that exist and are not in the books.

Thank you all for posting. I am assuming that the trap is not as rare Mr Baer leads me to believe. I am assuming that the above are all 12 gauge guns. Are they out there in any other than 12 gauge? Russ, thanks for sharing the photos of you marked trap gun. Very nice.

You are welcome Frank ,and I didn't mention ,but my gun in the serialization Book is listed as a 30" 12 Ga. ,in fact it is a , 32", 10 Ga. w/ Lam. Barrels that letters correctly through the PGCA Letter ! Russ

Frank, its pretty unusual to find a small bore vent rib gun, but they are out there, if that is what you mean. If you have a line on one, it would be worth taking a close look at.

Your question could be more precise, because of the ambiguity of calling something a "trap" gun. I have a good friend with a 28" Bernard C, double trigger, splinter forend , Parker flat vent rib. Trap gun? I don't know. I have another friend with a 28ga D, 30" , narrow beavertail, vent rib, flat vent rib. Trap gun?

Russ, did the letter say that it was a trap gun?

Russ, That's a wonderful gun. We know that HD Folsom ordered many of these guns with the "Trap" butt plate on them. I suspect they were long barreled 12's and 10's and that the special butt treatment was a sales pitch to sway buyers who were looking for a dedicated trap gun. As we all know trap shooting in that era was as big as major league baseball if not bigger and everyone wanted a piece of the pie.

I agree with you wholeheartedly Dave, on that point.

Russ, yours certainly isn't a 'single trap' so it must be the other...

I think we've covered this ground a couple of years ago on this forum and I believe the term "Double Trap" is somewhat nebulous in that there are various definitions depending on who's defining the term.

Further, I don't believe that a vent rib on a 12 ga. gun, or any other gauge for that matter, necessarily makes it a trap gun but if it was made specifically for trap shooting - live pigeons or clays, as a competition gun, it is a trap gun.

I don't see any reference to being specifically designed for shooting "trap doubles" in the '37 catalog.

It is formally called "Parker Double Barrel Trap Gun" rather than Double Trap. It is preceeded in the catalog by the "Parker Skeet Gun" and followed by the "Parker Single Barrel Trap Gun".

The Catalog states it was 12ga only and chambered for 2 3/4" shells. SST and BTFE were standard. Hawkin Pad was standard, option of any other make of pad. 30 or 32 inch barrels, both full choke, option of any other barrel length or boring. Ivory bead front and rear, red bead if desired. Non automatic safety standard , auto safety optional,

CPG stock standard, straight or half pistol grip optional. Standard dimensions 14 3/8" LOP, 1 7/8 DAH", 1 1/2" DAC. Any other stock measurement including cheek piece, monte carlo or cast off could be made.

A Remington built gun that has the above features would be a "Double Trap"

There were many double barrel guns ordered and built for trapshooting before this was marketed.

I think the 1937 Remington Parker term "Parker Double Barrel Trap Gun", or even "Double Trap" wherever it may be printed, was likely a marketing strategy.