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Angel Cruz 09-07-2011 07:04 PM

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What is a crass Ithica. This is a 10 ga with 3 inch chanbers and 28 inch bbls.
The guy says it's a D grade.

charlie cleveland 09-07-2011 10:10 PM

nice old ithaca..i dont know the grade of the gun but i know this much i like it.... charlie

Rick Losey 09-07-2011 10:49 PM

Crass is one of the various models of Ithacas named after the designer until the NID came along.


the Crass followed the Baker and preceeded the Lewis

made from 1892 thru 1903 - serial numbers from about 17235 to 94108

Angel Cruz 09-07-2011 10:55 PM

Thanks Rick!!

Mike Poindexter 02-23-2012 09:55 PM

Angel: Just stumbled across this old thread while looking up Crass model Ithacas on Google. I have Walt Snyder's book and it appears they made both hammer and hammerless guns on the Crass designed frame. The higher serial number hammer guns had 3 screw pins on the side of the frame, as yours does. The older Baker frames had none. From looking at an old Ithaca catalogue from 1888 (reprint) I don't think yours is a Grade D. That was their $100 gun, the next to highest hammer grade at the time, and advertised with "Rolled Gold Triggers, Extra fine Checkering, Extra Fine Finish and Engraving". Based on other Ithacas I have seen, I would bet your gun is a Quality B, which was a $50 dollar gun and comparable in description to a Quality 2 hammerless. The floorplate scroll is very similar to other Quality 2's I have seen. The star engraved on the hinge pin is common on 1 1/2's and Quality 2's as well. Both had Damascus barrels (as opposed to Stub Twist or Condensed Steel on the lower grades) but the 1 1/2 had a black walnut stock, while the 2 was listed with English. That's about all I know, fwiw.

Angel Cruz 02-23-2012 10:22 PM

Thanks for that bit of info Limapapa!! Very interesting.

Dave Noreen 02-24-2012 12:40 AM

In 1887, the year before the Crass Model hammerless Ithaca was introduced, the original Baker Model hammer Ithaca was replaced by the New Ithaca Gun or NIG model hammer gun. The NIG was built concurrantly with the Crass, Lewis, Minier and early Flues Model hammerless guns to 1914. Very briefly in the 1915-16 era they built a hammer version of the Flues hammerless gun, called the Two-Bolt model. The gun pictured is a fairly early NIG in Quality B.

alcaviglia 03-09-2013 02:35 PM

Jeff,

I came across this post looking for the last few steps to complete disassembly of an Ithaca Crass (1901). If you still have the photos/directions handy and can pass them along I would very much appreciate it. Sent PM. Thx.

Al

Robert Rambler 03-09-2013 04:30 PM

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On my Crass the bent coil spring goes in the hole on the right side of the top tag. A screw inserts behind it to adjust tension. It acts to take up play in the top lever. Visable in the pic just above the right hammer. HTH.

Bach Melick 12-13-2013 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alcaviglia (Post 99862)
Jeff,

I came across this post looking for the last few steps to complete disassembly of an Ithaca Crass (1901). If you still have the photos/directions handy and can pass them along I would very much appreciate it. Sent PM. Thx.

Al

Jeff, I am also in need of those same photos to help me reassemble an Ithaca Crass (1897) which I received with many parts in a bag... any chance you could e-mail those to me please? Thanks! tmelick @ yahoo


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