Same with the Lefevers.

And Baker. Frank Mason setters

https://photos.smugmug.com/Gun-Stuff...dogs%203-M.jpg

Upstate N.Y. was home to many of the best.
See at the top here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...Q/edit?tab=t.0

Ithaca Crass Guns
 

Meant to post these earlier, but here is 2 different Grade 3 Crass models with bird engraving

Stan, did you ever find out anything on C.A. Holbrook?

Those guns look so much better than the guns with "flying turnips" and head up/head down stoat". :whistle::corn:

I have not,

I need to do some more looking, a simple google search comes up empty. I was hoping for a few hints from some of our more accomplished historians :)

Stan, those are beautiful guns. Hard to believe there could be higher grades.

Stan, your C.A.Holbrook gun rang a bell and I just looked it up. It is pictured in 3 color views at page 43 of the first edition of Walt Snyder's book. No attribution to the pictures, so I assume it was one of Walt's own guns. No information on who C.A.Holbrook was.

Thanks Mike,

Yes, this gun is pictured in Walt's book, and it was formerly Walt's gun. I don't feel really confident that requesting a letter will get me anywhere, Walt held all the records till just a few years back and to my knowledge never did an article on this particular gun.

Stan

Ithaca Grade 4 Crass
 

Not to drive anyone to boredom, but here is a Grade 4 Crass with some elk like creatures for engraving, circa 1895. Don’t you wish sometimes to have been born 100 years earlier :whistle:

I apologize for the less than desirable background