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CraigThompson 04-23-2024 11:57 PM

Thirtyfive or so years ago I had a pair of 16 gauge Citori’s I shot A LOT . One was a 24” Upland Special that killed a fair number of grouse and quail . The other was a 28” Lightening that one was my dove and sporting clays gun . :whistle:

Daryl Corona 04-24-2024 07:20 AM

All one has to do is handle and shoot a quality smallbore, I'm talking 20 or 28ga, and if you don't understand the attraction for the longer barrels then fine. There aren't enough to go around anyway. I've loved them since the 70's so it's nothing new to me.

Ian Civco 04-24-2024 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 409768)
All one has to do is handle and shoot a quality smallbore, I'm talking 20 or 28ga, and if you don't understand the attraction for the longer barrels then fine. There aren't enough to go around anyway. I've loved them since the 70's so it's nothing new to me.

Is the implication that a long barreled smallbore shotgun is something to strive for, or is the implication why bother at all with a long barreled 12.gauge as a small bore handles better?

Ian Civco 04-24-2024 07:43 AM

Am I correct in my historical perspective that a 12 gauge side by side on the shelf in 12 gauge with 30” barrels, sometimes choked full and full, even if in superb condition, would languish? 32” even worse? We are talking the ‘80s and ‘90s.

Daryl Corona 04-24-2024 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Civco (Post 409769)
Is the implication that a long barreled smallbore shotgun is something to strive for, or is the implication why bother at all with a long barreled 12.gauge as a small bore handles better?

Ian, that all depends on the individual. I've got some great handling 12 ga guns but I've always loved the 20 and 28 gauges. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Ian Civco 04-24-2024 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Daryl Corona (Post 409772)
Ian, that all depends on the individual. I've got some great handling 12 ga guns but I've always loved the 20 and 28 gauges. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Thank you for your response. It was ambiguous with regards to the first post as to what your inclinations are, and I see they are both!

The lowly 12 gauge is the Rodney Dangerfield of the shotgun world. It just doesn’t get any respect! Many nice examples sell very cheaply.

A 28 gauge or .410 side by side Parker definitely is of interest—but they aren’t cheap.

randall rosenthal 04-24-2024 09:56 AM

I’m small and light and I like shotguns that are too. I shoot all the short presentations and rabbits at sporting with a 20 inch 20 gauge coach gun. haha...not the norm but it works. I use more conventional guns for the longer shots...like my VH 30 inch. I’m fairly new to this and just do it for fun so I just don’t know better.

Mike Franzen 04-24-2024 03:28 PM

I like shooting both the long and short. I have 24” bbl 12 ga I like for wild quail, grouse or woodcock. For game where fast shooting isn’t necessary, ducks, geese, turkeys, I like the longer bbls. For targets, which I shoot for fun, I like longer bbls.

Phil Yearout 04-24-2024 03:50 PM

I like 28" barrels on everything, and a 28" 16ga sxs is just about perfect to me.

Drew Hause 04-24-2024 03:52 PM

Interesting how what was old is new again ;)

1878 available in 28", 30" & 32"

https://photos.smugmug.com/US-Makers...%20List-XL.jpg

1898 Sears 28", 30" & 32"

"We can made shorter or longer barrels..."

https://photos.smugmug.com/US-Makers...20Parker-M.png

1906 now 26" listed

https://photos.smugmug.com/US-Makers...0catalog-L.jpg

Edwin Hedderly, Forest & Stream, December 26, 1908, “Twenty Bores for Duck Shooting” began promoting long barrel small bores for waterfowl
https://books.google.com/books?id=ej...C&pg=PA1018&vq

Response February 27, 1909, “Small-bore Guns and Loads”
https://books.google.com/books?id=nE...AJ&pg=PA337&dq

Hedderly was the editor of Western Field starting in July 1910, and beginning in September 1910 he ran a series of articles on the smallbore shotgun. He received several guns from Parker Brothers in exchange for ads. April 4, 1911 he ordered a 32-inch 28-gauge pistol grip DHE engraved “Wildfowl Mfg Expressly for E.L. Hedderly.” April 26, 1912 he ordered a 20-gauge 32-inch A1-Special, and May 14, 1912 a 32-inch 16-gauge A1-Special.


1912

26" only listed for the small gauges

https://photos.smugmug.com/US-Makers...0catalog-L.jpg

Parker Brothers’ “Advent Of The Small Bore Gun”
Breeder & Sportsman October 3, 1914
https://archive.org/details/breeders...p?view=theater


IMHO part of the move to 26" barrel doubles corresponded to the introduction of Skeet in 1926

The Ithaca "Skeet Special"

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...portsman-L.jpg

Hunter Arms' offering was initially named the "Skeet Upland Special" with barrel lengths of 25" to 32"; 26" was the most popular

https://photos.smugmug.com/LC-Smith/...gure%204-L.jpg

The cover of the August 1926 National Sportsman by William Harnden Foster was “the first painting ever published of a scene in the new sport of Skeet” and possibly depicted his son using Foster Sr’s 27" barrel 20 gauge Parker DHE.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Trap-Skee...re%202b-XL.jpg


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