Pete here's an idea that perhaps you haven't considered. Instead of loading a28ga equivelent load in the 12ga just buy a 28 then have the Cheerios for breakfast:rotf::rotf:

Cuz the 28 would kick harder and pattern worse and I can use all the money I saved to drive to shoots :rotf:

Save money???:vconfused: The 28 will appreciate in value therefor increasing your net worth:whistle:

Brian at New Era Ammunition loaded some 2 inch paper 16's with the equivelent of a 28ga load and what a nice shell to shoot for Grouse and Woodcock. Almost as nice as actually useing my 28:p

Since I have yet to sell a Parker any 28ga would be a sunk cost for me and a capital gain for my heirs.

how true ...wonder if any of myheirs appreciate my stuff or will they sale it...i hope they appreciate the things ive looked after in life.. charlie

I hope I have the ability and the intestinal fortitude to sell everything when I can and enjoy the cash. The thought has crossed my mind to limit myself to a couple of Parkers and a deer rifle when I retire....oh the horror of it all.

Personally I like Charlie's TP filler idea!!! The way I shoot it doesn't hurt to have some extra around. Lee.:rotf:

thanks lee the old tp works good..have shot it in the 8 ga down to the 16. but gonna give those cherios a workout soon.. charlie

Claybuster has a new wad for 3/4 oz. in the 20 gauge. Sure wish they'd make one for the 12.

I show Alliant Extralite powder @16grains with CB 0178-12 for a 3/4 oz. load in Remington cases going 1300fps. They also use it in Winchester cases and others if you look in the Alliant web site. I'm using the 20 gage load with Green Dot as soon as my 3/4 oz P/W bushing comes. Lee.:)