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Bill Murphy 05-03-2023 07:10 AM

Unbelievable. "Parker never made a pigeon gun." "The Parker single was made as a pigeon gun." "This 16 gauge is an 0 frame." It was obviously a 1 frame. I'll watch it again and pick up more blunders. Or maybe I won't watch it again. Who is that Orvis guy who picked up his information from a 1961 book? Unfortunately, we can't understand a word the Brit says.

























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William Davis 05-03-2023 07:10 AM

End of the day all UTubers are in the advertising business. Featuring Orvis who markets lifestyle pays. Have never seen real expertise from Orvis shooting or fishing and this video no exception

Other hand it’s been said all publicity is good even bad publicity

Russell E. Cleary 05-03-2023 07:45 AM

I would say that the host gets a heck of a lot right about Parker guns in a short video. He’s been around a while. But there certainly are jarring discrepancies, some of which he quickly corrects (or someone in the room prompts him to correct). And what makes it so rankling to our ears, is that when he does get it wrong, it was delivered with such a facile assurance.

As for the “one of the good guys” comment. Yup, with the emergence of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) corporate social credit scoring, we see no less than a fellow shotgunner, in a momentary reflex, like a puppet on a string.

Overall, I still believe, despite the parts that have us cringing, I enjoyed watching it, and consider it is a net plus for the Parker world, the scope of which the video’s sponsor is extending to an international audience.

Dean Romig 05-03-2023 09:41 AM

IMO 60% of the information purported to be fact is a combination of ill-conceived opinion mixed with non-factual BS.





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randall rosenthal 05-03-2023 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Graziano (Post 387987)
The Orvis guys reminded me why I hate Orvis, corporate jerks who know little. I love the TGS videos but this one is just not up to their usual high standards. Jonny Carter is a good guy and I’ve learned a huge amount about British firearms and shooting scene from watching the videos. He’s also quite popular in the UK. I appreciate what he does and also, that he is taking an interest in American shotguns. That said, he needs to understand his subject far better and not rely on one biased source. Also, as a NJ guy who just moved from Alabama, shut up about the Civil War, unless you want to ignite one.

I fished offshore in Louisiana for years. the first year i was obligated to refight the civil war. the truth is they care a lot more about it than we do. that said some of my best friends live there. enjoy your new home!

Bill Murphy 05-03-2023 03:17 PM

OK, under duress, I watched it again. "I don't know who owns the Invincibles or where they ended up." "The single barrel is a pigeon gun." Absolutely no mention of a trap gun. "Parkers all have 2 1/2" chambers, so Orvis had to order in quantities of 2" shells for their customers." We should have a contest.

Dean Romig 05-03-2023 04:37 PM

Remington ceased production of Parkers in 1939……WRONG !!!

Among the gauges Parkers were made in was the 24 gauge…… WRONG !!!
And there was no mention of the 11 gauge or the 18 gauge.



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Mike Koneski 05-03-2023 05:09 PM

Funny, my 12g VHE is a live bird gun too. They can keep peddling Eurotrash.

Bill Murphy 05-03-2023 05:40 PM

Virginia NSSA skeet shooter Bob Hess had a 24 gauge Parker. It got away from him in the early 70's. Someone displayed it at the PGCA meeting and show at Nashville. I have Bob's VHE 20 gauge skeet gun. I tried to buy the last case of Bob's 24 gauge Remington shells, in wooden crate. The fellow who had the shells said he would sell them to me if I owned a 24 gauge gun. We could not strike a deal.

Dean Romig 05-04-2023 08:33 AM

Bill, I wasn’t aware of a 24 gauge Parker.

I am aware on one 18 gauge having been made on a 16 gauge frame (0-frame) and was used extensively at a Skeet school I believe in Maryland or Delaware (Olin ?).
The gun was offered to me at something like $20k and it came with 1 box of 18 gauge shells made exclusively for this gun. One of the 18 gauge shells was missing and the space in the box was filled with a 20 gauge shell.

I know you know of this Parker Bill.

BTW, I didn’t buy it…





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