I really like those guns I cannot miss with but its been a while since I owned one...it was a model 11 Remington with 26 imp cly barrel...like you Richard I did not miss often with that gun....musta been about60 years ago I traded that gun to my dad for and over and under savage 12 ga single trigger gun....how often have I thought of that trade....charlie

Bead Extension
 

The elimination of the bead extension was not exclusively a Remington revision. Three examples below illustrate Meridian Parker's without the bead, manufactured in 1903, 1898 and 1928.

Right Bruce, the one I showed without the bead is also a pre-1931 Meriden Parker, as is the last one you picture Bruce.





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Bruce, the top photo of the DH you show DOES have it.

And, I did not say that it was a remington thing. I specifically stated that the elimination of this feature was done by Meriden long before Remington bought the company.

The only example of earlier made Meriden guns that I have ever seen without it were some 0 frame guns for some reason. Some, not all.

Dean

What are the DOM of the two guns you show? I think the upper one is much more elegantly shaped in more ways than just the bead.

Art, I really don’t know the DOM of those guns but judging by the engraving alone I would say the top one is about 1890 or so and might even be one of the “three dog” DH guns that are so very uncommon…
The gun in the lower picture was made in the 1920’s but no later than 1931 as the engraver who I believe did that gun, Frederick Anschutz, passed away in 1930 and we don’t see his style of dog after he passed.
Look up Frederick Anschutz in The Parker Story and you will see several references to him, including the actual date of his death, but you will also find where the authors described his dogs as “decidedly male” and the vast majority of his dogs certainly are depicted as most certainly male.

Incidentally, I copied those pictures from the Internet and most probably from this PGCA website.




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Then there are the elusive 3-inch Remington-Parkers, rare in any grade. I am
still patiently looking for one-maybe even a 2 7/8 in righteous Parker Bros. gun.

Interesting that Parker Bros./Remington dropped that little bead. Savage kept it on the A.H. Fox guns right to the end.

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I’ve got two skeet guns and two trap guns that are Remington era . I like some used to turn my nose up at the Remington made variation but I shoot these four as well if not better than the pre merger guns . That’s kinda like I used to turn my nose up at non Philly Fox’s !

Here is an original Parker with chamber and barrel measurements . 1 frame 28 “ .

Also shown are the cartridges I shoot through it. Those are quail loads , for pheasant I go to regular 1 1/8 oz 3 dram loads, usually Federals.