Bob,

This 650 was missing so many things and the main thing was the primer feed. The new MEC part costs more than complete used 20 MEC 600 JRs, so I did not buy it. So there are seven motions to use it now. Manually place a primer, place a hull, manually place wad, then after pulling the handle, rotate the wheel, put in hull, remove the finished hull. This is after resizing hulls before hand. A 600 JR will work circles around it!

Thanks.

A neighbor gave me an aged 12ga 650 that had been his deceased brothers and which needed some serious TLC. I did my best with it and it is far and away my smoothest MEC of the 5 on my bench. It just works so flawlessly. I wouldn't sell it for anything at this point.

I have a 12 ga 650 also that works well, because it has the primer feed. But with having to put the primers in by hand makes it easy to forget one of the many actions one needs to do. The new style primer feed MEC sells for the 650 is the tray type and not the old tube type where the primers must be fed one by one until the tube is full. The replacement part cost more than a used machine. I did not buy it.

For speed the 9000 machines will spoil you, but they are easy to screw up as well and make a mess. The single stage 600 Jr.s are hard to screw up.