Milton, did you see the photos I took and posted for you and Charlie? Check the "Other Fine Doubles" section for some 8s and 4s...and even bigger guns.

I havnt looked yet, I have been drooling over all the big bores Josh keeps listing :rotf:

So far in I guess about the past 10 years I have seen 2 short 10 gauges that have been punched out to 3.5" magnum, barrel integrity aside looking at how petite my 3 frame is in the wrist I couldnt see firing a 3.5" load through it even if it had the chambers. I do recall one Parker 3 frame 10 ga magnum I seen and the stock had been greatly beefed up not sure if that was a factory gun or a personal project.

Look at all the other guns they listed new this week. They must have taken in a collection or something. There is a lot of grade model 11 remingtons!

Sadly most of the guns have been butchered up pretty badly.

In my experience, neglect is a lot easier to fix than abuse and abuse by a gunsmith who does not know what they are doing is the worst.

This gun may have some interesting history to it. According to Fold3 there were 3 "J.F. Shackelfords" in the Civil War. One was an enlisted Confederate Private from Enterprise, MS (19 miles from Meridian), another was a Confederate Captain/Assistant Surgeon in the Virginia 48th Infantry and no info on the third one. Would love to see a letter on this gun.

I called on the gun this morning and it, and I believe the grade 3 hammer gun have been sold.

oh man, those rascals at Cabela's are at it again.

I have two early 10's with true 9 gauge barrels and neither of them will take a Brownells chamber gauge at any depth over the 2-5/8". There is no way with either 9 or 20 gauge bores they weren't rechambered.

When I first looked at that pheasant I knew it looked too recent. To me it looks like a Runge engraving and I can’t say it’s not.

Now I read this by Kevin McCormack and I’m even more convinced. But without documentation, who’s to say?


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I did not buy the guns, in case anyone was wondering.

If the work is by Runge, that would help. As has been said, the cost of undoing poor "restoration" exceeds fixing neglect. I have some other irons in the fire anyway.