That should stack evenly in layers of 2 right? According to my mic .417 is the max size roundball that would evenly stack in these Winchester hulls. I read that unevenly stacked buckshot gives bad patterns but havnt seen this tested? Hence why 000 is usually the largest loaded in the 12ga and 0000 being ideal for the 10 as it stacks evenly.

my old parker lifter gun in 8 ga has barrels that were cut from 34 inch to 27 1/4 inch it really handles good but is a short range gun with no choke left....its the gun I shoot the pumpkin balls out of .30 yards max for it....no good buckshot patterns either...20 yards maybe for buckshot....charlie

Charlie;

The new wheel weights are ZINK which is much lighter than lead and harder than woodpecker lips.

yes this new wheel weight stuff zink is not for making bullets....the old wheel weights is what I made my pumpkin balls for the 8 ga out of...charlie

The first shotgun slugs I cast were 50% clip on WW’s 50% pure lead . Now I pretty much cast straight clip on wheelweights . And yes the not zinc type .

There was a supposedly factory original 8 gauge 32” lifter at Sanford , Houseman’s and Koneski’s . I’d like to have had it but it was a couple grand more than I thought it was worth .

I remember Pugs had a 8 gauge lifter with factory 32" barrels about 2 years ago listed for $4900 they couldnt sell it at that price but I think it sold at auction for 6k which I thought was odd.

That ain’t the same gun .

This one must be in a bit nicer shape ?

Got the gang mold for 000000 buck today . It’s actual 5 thousandths smaller in diameter than the two single cavity molds I’ve been using but being as this deal has more then enough cavities to fill a shotgun shell with each pour I can live with it !