John, If you contact Russ Gray (RWG),and send him a one time $20 fee he'll get you set up on the low pressure group. I think $500 for the Parker Story is for the limited edition. Pretty sure I paid less then $300 for mine,have to watch and shop around. Others here can point you in the right direction I'am sure. :)

WW Xpert Hull, WW 209 primer, 15.8 grains International, DR 16 wad, 7/8 oz shot yields 1150 fps at 6200 psi. You wouldn't believe the effectiveness of this load on clays and birds. I shoot 7 1/2 chilled shot at everything smaller than rabbit an duck.

Harry

Thank You Harry! Were do you find the Winchester hulls? I can't find them around here.

Dave,

When I cleaned out Papa's house I found about 300 or so once fired empties he had been hoarding. You can still get WW Xpert 1 oz 2 1/2 dram loads at 1165 fps. A great load and expensive, but is a way to get empties.

Harry

Thanks Harry. I wonder with the Winchester being a straight walled hull if a Cheddite hull has about the same capacity.

Dave, Here's what I've been useing in my 16ga DH.
Cheddite Hull
Win 209
DR16 wad
16.3 gr Clays International
7/8 oz #8 lead
1175 fps 6700 psi

Nice load thats murder on clay targets.:)

Thanks Robert, Looking at Harry's and your load they seem very close. I think I will order some Down Range wads and some Cheddite hulls and give it a go. Thanks again!

Ok, this brings up another question that I have. I am just starting to collect hulls for the 16 right now. I have a couple hundred old AA's that I will load several more times, but I need to build a supply of something more modern. I was starting to work on Remington game loads simply because I can get them locally, but I can just as easily get WW Xpert.

Here is the question though; if I buy factory loads on the WW Xperts, I only have one 16 gauge to empty them through. Can I shoot those the first time through the Parker? What kind of pressure am I looking at there?

Thanks again.

John, I don't know about factory pressures on the AA's maybe Harry can answer that for you. I reload the black Remingtons and at best I get 4/5 reloads before they are junk. I think the AA's will last a bit longer.

And one more while I'm at it: I may go ahead and order some Cheddite hulls. They come primed with ch209 primers. I don't know how different they are from the Winchester 209, but does anyone have a 7/8 or 1 Oz recipe for that combo? I currently have the Claybusters WAA 16 wad, and the SP 16 wad, but will also be getting some DR 16's. I am making a trip to "the big city" in the next few days and plan to stock up on all the things I can't get here.

This info would help until I hear back from the low pressure group and get their data tables.