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Dean Romig 10-07-2021 09:26 AM

And there are a LOT of examples of Parkers who's barrels are a tad longer or shorter than how they are listed in the factory records.





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Randy G Roberts 10-07-2021 09:44 AM

My real interest in the gun lies in the fact that it is a PH 20 with documented 25 1/2" barrels thus I was seeking opinions on originality. I think the term rare would apply here. If the gun had more condition I would not hesitate given the rarity. At the end of the day I will most likely pass because of that lack of condition and it really does not fit my collecting DNA if you will. Really neat little gun though. Thanks for the replies Gentlemen :bigbye:

Steve Huffman 10-07-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 345412)
It looks like a PH… i



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Dean how could you tell this was a PH ?

Dean Romig 10-07-2021 11:28 AM

Simply by the fact that it's a 1917 gun with what appear to be either Twist or Laminated barrels. At that time the only guns Parker normally produced with those barrels were the Grade 1 or PH guns.





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Craig Budgeon 10-07-2021 05:53 PM

Muzzles do not look flat, ivory bead is installed to far back , more soldier than keels, flat on top rib is easy to duplicate with 4oz. hammer and a half round file, barrels do not touch at the muzzle, and I have seen many Parker barrel lengths vary up to 1/8" but never 1/4".

CraigThompson 10-07-2021 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy G Roberts (Post 345409)
It is in the books as a 25 1/2" gun but I do not have a letter. Just kicking tires for now on this one James, it would be a neat little grouser and an oddity at that barrel length.

Kinda unusual for you getting down to 2/3’s of a yardstick :rotf:

CraigThompson 10-07-2021 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 345411)
I say “original” judging by the fact that the keels are in place and the perpendicular termination line and blank space beyond it are all still there.

What difference would 1/4” make anyway? The chokes would not have been affected by a reduction of 1/4”. Parker customarily bores chokes with from 0” to as much as 3/8” of “parallel” bore at the muzzle. “Trimmed” barrels are not uncommon and IMO do not detract from a ‘shooter’ gun’s value.
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I got an NH a few years back that was pretty much a beater but useful for actual use . Anyway there was an ever so slight part at the muzzle , so we clamped it in the vise on the mill and took a skoosh over 1/8” off the muzzle problem solved as the minute separation disappeared and after shooting several hundred times it didn’t restart .

Randy G Roberts 10-07-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigThompson (Post 345456)
Kinda unusual for you getting down to 2/3’s of a yardstick :rotf:

I'm running a fever 🥵

John Bastiani 10-07-2021 10:58 PM

I thought I read in The Parker Story that if a barrel was within a 1/2 inch of the recorded length than it was most likely original. I have barrels on 2 my Parkers that are 1/16 to 1/8 over the recorded length and one that is 3/16 under the recorded length. The termination line on the shorter length looks very similiar to yours with probably less than 1/16 of a inch from the line to the end of the barrel.

Craig Larter 10-08-2021 03:12 AM

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Randy that's original in my opinion. I own a 32 " gun that measures 31 3/4" and still has the termination line with a normal blank space. This gun was made in 1917 and maybe DD barrels were impossible to source due to WWI, so PB used what they had to finish a gun??


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