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Originally Posted by Harold Lee Pickens (Post 337496)

My PH 16, circa 1891 letters with Twist steel barrels per the Order book. The stock book says Plain Twist. What is the difference between the two?
The rib inscription says Twist.
Sorry, meant to start a new thread, but dont know how to move it now.

I asked the same question a couple month’s back, and I’m not sure I got an answer as to whether there is a difference. My barrels from 1907 were identified in the thread as “plain twist”, and they are marked “twist” on the barrel.

I appreciate the link that I provided has lots of information.

Here is the short version.

Plain Twist (and Stub Twist) are 2 of the many patterns that fit under the general category of "Twist" - thin strips of alternating steel and iron which are "stacked" into a "lopin" WHICH IS NOT TWISTED (as is crolle damascus) before being run through a rolling mill at high heat and pressure to form the rod, which is then wrapped around a mandrel and helically welded to form the "rough forged tube"

This is a segment of Plain Twist which happens to show the end on rod when it was added to the ribband - the white is iron and black is steel

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...eth%2011-S.jpg

So for practical purposes, when a U.S. maker labeled their barrel "Twist", or a lower quality Belgian gun was marked "Laminated Steel", it had the appearance of "Plain Twist"

This a Dr. Gaddy's English Twist, Plain Twist, Common Twist, Birmingham, or “Scelp/Skelp” sample segment, which was referred to as "Wire Twist" by W. Greener in 1835.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...ist%2011-S.jpg

It is likely that Parker Bros. DID source some Twist (and Crolle Damascus) from Birmingham for Lifters, but certainly the vast majority of top lever guns had "rough forged tubes" sourced from Belgium.

So essentially, Twist and Plain Twist are the same, the only difference being where Parker Bros. sourced the tubes?

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Parker guns with ribs marked "Twist" had a "Plain Twist" pattern

EXCEPT Parker guns marked "Twist" that had a "London Damascus Twist" pattern

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...%20Twist-M.jpg

"Stub Twist" barrels had a slightly different methodology and appearance than "Plain Twist"

Here's a pattern that may be unique as Parker barrels go, and is a 16 gauge. This pattern is known as "Stars and Stripes" or "American Flag Bunting." I prefer the latter.

I'm trying to remember the grade but will have to search my folder "Other People's Parkers" to see if I can find more pictures of the gun.

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It is "Washington" Dean; no stars

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33830

Can’t it still be American Flag Bunting…? please…?

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Okay, after an hour of searching my phpto folder of Other People's Parkers I finally found the only other picture I have of the gun.
It's a Grade 2 hammer gun but I don't know what the barrel steel on the rib is, although I have the picture filed as "Grade 2 Stars and Stripes Damascus" so the rib is likely marked Damascus, but I can't say for certain... and I don't know the serial number.

Sorry about the red picture. Somehow a red filter came on in my PC a few weeks ago and I've tried everything to get rid of it, but.... I can't do it for whatever reason.

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Dean, maybe this helps. I changed it to a gray scale and removed the red.