I should also add.....one is Meriden and one is Remington. A change of philosophy?

I have a few 0-frame 16’s as well including hammerless, a T/A hammer and a Lifter as well. I’ll try to get some measurements and post them here.

The Lifter has the Parker-made Laminated barrels.



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The 1907 Hunter Arms Chamber Specifications drawing shows the forcing cones as slightly less than 1/2" and a straight taper. The cone angle was shallower in the 1935 drawings with a length of about 5/8".

Austin Hogan stated that, at least early on, the Parker cones were cut at a Ogee rather than a simple taper; this illustration is obviously exaggerated. I've been looking for his posted WT numbers in my files without success.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../413955534.jpg

Was this cone profile continued throughout production?

Parker, 28" DHE 16ga. 0 frame, Made in 1898. Wgt 6/6
Damascus; Unstruck wgt 3/7, Finished wgt 2/12
MWT, .024"R, .024"L
MWT 9" from Breech, .046"R, .045"L
MWT 9" from Muzzle, .025"R, .024"L
MWT-Chamber, .095"R, .099"L
MWT-FC, .104"R, .107"L
Bore, .666"R (must be Satanic Steel), .665L

I'll double check these later, rule out my hand tremor.

Austin’s research also indicated the chokes were cut (or bored) at an ofee as well and he believed from the many Parkers he examined that this practice continued until Remington cut the chokes at an angle rather than continue the more precise and labor intensive practice of cutting them at an ogee. I don’t know if this also applies to the chambers/cones.






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I have a 1904 CHE 16 O-frame gun. It weighs a smidgeon over 6 lbs. (research letter also indicates this weight). The unstruck barrel weight is 3 lbs 1 oz. Actual weight is 2 lbs. 8 oz. Its barrel measurements (Hosford gauge for wall thickness measurements) are:

R/L:
Bore -- .666.,665
MWT @ Chamber -- .098/.092
MWT @ 9" from breech -- .040/.042
MWT @ 9" from muzzle -- .025/.033
MWT -- .025/.031

I had a complete set of Hayes’ choke reamers which were straight tapered.

Well there ya go.... again we disagree.

Can't argue with you on that point but neither can I argue with Austin's research data.....





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I wasn’t disagreeing with you. I merely said I had a set of James Hayes choke reamers which are straight tapered. They also are dated if I recall. The current custodian can confirm, if he wishes.

You sold those...? All of them, including the 8 gauge?





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