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Rino Grassa 11-02-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Jurewicz (Post 315286)
By the way Rino, how could you determine it was a FW Frame from the pictures I posted?
Bob Jurewicz

The extra sideplate screw (forward section of the plate) the regular frames have just the one screw....that Elsie has a lot going for it.....what is the Barrel length and choke configuration? Looks unmolested too!

Rino Grassa 11-02-2020 09:08 AM

I would get a Letter for this nice LC

Bob Jurewicz 11-02-2020 09:12 AM

26" Barrels.
Right Bore - .616" .020" Choke
Left Bore - .615" .024" Choke
Bob Jurewicz

Chris Robenalt 11-02-2020 09:49 AM

Great little keeper! I have the same engraving on my 12. I wish mine had your case colors. I like Smiths, especially when you find one like yours! You might check your front plate screws, make sure they're on the correct side. Looks like the left screw isn't recessed correctly.
Chris

Drew Hause 11-02-2020 12:24 PM

Only 36 Grade 1 20g with 26" barrels were manufactured.

Unfortunately, information on shotguns produced 1890 to 1917 is usually limited. Generally, the shipping records include only the shipping date, manufacturing date, barrel length, gauge, and grade.
But you might get lucky with the original purchaser in a Research Letter
https://lcsca.clubexpress.com/conten...dule_id=245742

The FW frame was introduced with the 20g in 1909. There MAY be a few 20g guns made prior to then on a Regular frame, but no one, other than Pine Creek Dave ;) has seen one.

Hunter Arms did not lengthen the 20g chambers from 2 1/2" until 1936.

The No. 1 was discontinued when the Trap Grade was introduced in 1913.

Bob Jurewicz 11-02-2020 01:13 PM

I sent for a letter today. Thank all who responded to my post!!
Bob Jurewicz

Dave Noreen 11-02-2020 06:20 PM

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By the way Rino, how could you determine it was a FW Frame from the pictures I posted?
L.C. Smith collectors are still looking to find that long rumored 20-gauge on a regular frame. While a few 16-gauges were built on the Regular Frame, normally 16-gauges, as well as all 20-gauges and .410-bores are on the Featherweight frame. They produced 12-gauges on both the Regular Frame and the Featherweight Frame. Regular Frame --

Attachment 89611

Featherweight Frame --

Attachment 89612

A quick glance at the shape of the lockplate shows the difference.

Rino Grassa 11-02-2020 06:29 PM

Dang, my 00E 16ga is on a regular frame but it is nicely balanced and it kills birds real good.... I thought the 20's came with both the regular and FW frame

Brian Dudley 11-02-2020 06:30 PM

The featherweight frames were Actually all different between the gauges.

Robert Brooks 11-06-2020 09:40 AM

Russ Ruppel told me years ago that he had seen a 20 gauge on a regular frame but i never have. Bobby


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