I’m okay with Red Dot , Unique and Green Dot and have loads for those powders . But when I looked in the Alliant loadbook brochure thing they had loads listed for Promo but they didn’t have Promo in the bushings chart . Thank you !!! In a conversation with Jimmy Hall earlier today he had told me he had been told the bushings to use were the same as Red Dot also.

In my sorta cleaning up I had an older box of WIN AA12 wads that I used up . And took a pic of the load data on the back of the box . I loved 452AA for the 12 as well as 473AA for the 20 and of course 540 for the 28 . I never loaded anything but 540 in the 28 until in the last seven or eight years .

Bushings often do not drop what is listed for them. I weigh the charge and see then which bushing drops the closest---and then again, it aint rocket science, and in the lower presure mid velocity(<1200fps) loads I shoot, it wouldnt matter that much.

Yeah I was aware of that . Years ago I had a bunch of aluminum slugs cut to make custom bushings for the PW 800C’s I used at that time . After drilling and filing a couple broke me of that PDQ . When I recently started loading the 8 gauge I weighed some bushings with powders that weren’t in the table , a lot more time consuming then I care for .

The other side of the equation is the other side of the MEC charge bar, they almost universally drop a lighter charge of lead than advertised. I have never worried about this as a shotgun is not a rifle where precision of everything is critical.

When I selected the 7/8 ounce Red Dot load I wanted from the Alliant data I was using a #29 bushing after weighing powder. When shooting them there was nothing wrong but I thought the loads were "barking" just a tad. I simply switched to the #28 bushing went back to shooting and thought there that sounds good. Reloading for a shotgun has some science behind it but it also has some seat of the pants feel to it as well.

I just loaded and tried one of the Promo 1 1/8 ounce loads using the CB AA wad and the #29 bushing in an STS hull . Shot the shell in a cut down single barrel into the snail and even in that light gun the recoil wasn’t anything to think about ! That stuff seems to burn very clean also . I’ve had people tell me Red Dot isn’t clean or wasn’t clean , but of all the Red Dot I’ve shot in the last 3-4 years in the 10 gauge guns I’ve never noticed anything overly dirty about it .

I've used Promo before but I would advise mixing the container good before using and checking weight again when starting a new container. The weight varies container to container and lot to lot.

I may be wrong but I suspect I’ll just use up this container and continue on with Red Dot , Green Dot and Unique oh yeah and Universal Clays . When the Obamite was claiming to be a president I bought up anything I thought I could use in anticipation . Now I’m trying to reduce the odds and ends . This jug of Promo came to me when I bought a loader from someone as well as the American Select I used for the 7/8 ounce 12 loads .

I have had excellent results loading 7/8 oz loads in AA cases with MECs #28 bushing with 700X. Slightly lighter than published data but feisty enough to work from 16 to 22 yds at very informal trap evenings.

We shot at Central VA today and I asked about an eighter of Red Dot which he didn’t have . But I got the same in Promo for $135 . I also bought a half case of CB 0175-12 wads . I’ll see if the crimp will flatten out with 7/8 ounce of shot in STS hulls .