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Brian Dudley 07-16-2020 03:11 PM

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I happened to have all of these photos in my archives from a 6 frame 8g. that I restored a number of years ago. I thought I shared them at that time, but maybe not. Here they are...


Some Parker internal parts have variances in them based on frame size.

But the 6 frame guns have a many number of unique parts in them due to their massive size.

Here are a number of them for you to compare and learn from.


6 frame top lever on top and 2 frame on bottom.

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See here the marking on the bottom of a 6 frame top lever. (Model No. 6 Hammerless. And the year 1899 (the gun it came from was made in '99).

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A 6 frame cocking slide (on right) next to a 2 frame slide.

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A 6 frame safety jacket assembly (on right) next to a standard assembly (they are all the same size on all other frame sizes).

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A 6 frame trip (on right) next to the normal Trip assembly.

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The 6 frame cocking crank (on right) next to the standard crank.

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The 6 frame trigger plate (on right) next to a 2 frame plate.

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A 6 frame sear (on right) next to the standard sear. Note how far the leg bends in, due tot he width of the frame and having to bring it in to the normal
position.

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Finally the 6 frame on top with a 2 frame on bottom.

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The gun that these parts came from. An 8g. PH with 40" barrels.

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Brian Dudley 07-16-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton C Starr (Post 307213)
Something ive been wondering and I dont know how this applies to small frames , but why do some of these have a two piece dolls head and on others its solid with the rib ?



All of the Rib extensions on Parkers are a separate piece from the rib. At least from the time that they started using the patent dolls head extension. The extension piece is about 2.5" long.

Milton C Starr 07-16-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Dudley (Post 307246)
All of the Rib extensions on Parkers are a separate piece from the rib. At least from the time that they started using the patent dolls head extension. The extension piece is about 2.5" long.

That was great seeing all those different parts for the 6 frames , when I got my 6 frame at first I was like oh its not that big . However I got to compare it beside a 10 gauge hammergun and you can definitely appreciate the difference then . The breech thickness on the small 10 ga is around .21" and the 6 frame is around .28"-.29" .

Is there any reason documented why some of the extensions have the visible seam and some dont ?

Dean Romig 07-16-2020 03:47 PM

Brian, I remember the discussion with pictures of the cocking crank and the floor plate and maybe one or two other things that are considerably bigger on the 6 frame, but I don't remember any discussion on the purpose of that extra screw in the top tang..





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Dean Romig 07-16-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Milton C Starr (Post 307252)
Is there any reason documented why some of the extensions have the visible seam and some dont ?

The seam is far more obvious on barrels that have been refinished, or have been exposed regularly to caustic atmospheric conditions.






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Milton C Starr 07-16-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 307255)
The seam is far more obvious on barrels that have been refinished, or have been exposed regularly to caustic atmospheric conditions.






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Such as waterfowling near salt walter ?

From what I could find on mine it probably spent the majority of its life on the local river just 2hrs upstream . The humidity here though is pretty rough on guns /

Dean Romig 07-16-2020 04:29 PM

Yup, exactly those kinds of conditions.




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Brian Dudley 07-16-2020 04:40 PM

The funny thing about the 6 frame guns is that everything is texas sized except for the trigger guard. They look tiny on the guns.

Rick Roemer 07-16-2020 05:16 PM

With all those differences and obvious unique parts, were 6 frame guns more expensive? One would think so.

Milton C Starr 07-16-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Roemer (Post 307263)
With all those differences and obvious unique parts, where 6 frame guns more expensive? One would think so.

I seen a Parker catalog from 1912 IIRC that lists the DH grade 8 gauge as $35 more than the 10,12, etc which according to a inflation calculator would be around $912 difference today . However ive heard 1 day of good waterfowling could make as much as 10 days wage as your average worker so the price difference may have been negligible to a professional waterfowler ? Theres probably alot of caveats to that however and alot of variables I would think .

Though if you were waterfowling for a living and you just needed a big gun for the job a grade 1 or 0 would have been cheaper .


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